about 3 weeks ago I got asked to run the service truck by a mans farm and do some welding. He had a tractor there with a scissor and had me weld a horiszontal pipe to a verticle one set in the ground. He had it all marked and the purpose was to let him stick the spear in the top pipe like a bale then un hitch. he told me he spent 2 hours with his hand pinched in it one evening till his wife found him lol. It works good we had to weld a set of chain hooks one on the pie and the other ont the top of one of the scissors to keep it from folding up.