Buying Advice Help me match needs with budget

   / Help me match needs with budget #1  

Farmagain

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Location
Ashland, Alabama
Tractor
Kubota L4310
Hi everyone and thanks for such awesome feedback and experience. I sold my 69 model IH 444 Monday and I'm ready to buy another tractor but my plans keep falling apart. I had planned to buy a reconditioned Yanmar 38-50 HP 4wd right away from Best-Used-Tractors-LLC but it turns out they won't sell them without a loader. So, for example, the advertised price of the 45HP 3810D jumps from $8825 to $12,520 with FEL. Just can't find an available Yanmar anywhere in larger HP without a loader. I have a backhoe when I need a loader. Being so close to the price of a new Kobota L3800 ($13,900 Beshears Tractor, Oxford) I turned my sights to shopping for the L3800. I would love to find a used one with 1000 hours or less, but can't find a single one within 150 miles unless they have FEL's and cost more than a new one. The power of the 444 was adequate. My 6' Andy rotary cutter would choke down a little in really tall, thick fescue but I just slowed down and kept going. I'm not even sure that the Kubota L3800 will do what I want.

Let me explain my needs. I have 76 acres with mixed grassland, hardwoods (for firewood) and pines (for retirement). I have a 3 acre pond and springs in some of the grounds, which makes it soft. I am constantly changing the landscape to improve wildlife habitat and to grow fruit trees and blueberries for us. The biggest demand I made on my other tractor was bush hogging saplings. Sweet gums grow like weeds around here and sometimes get to 2" overnight it seems, so I have to mow them like grass. I had a LMC Andy 6' rotary mower which I sold last week at an auction because it was too light. I felt I would surely tear it up on the sweet gums. Now that I am shopping for a new mower I'm finding that dealers call the model I had a medium duty mower. I called it feather weight duty myself. The main bearing had begun to leak and it really looked used with probably no more than 40 hours of use on a 40 HP tractor. If I get a heavier cutter, I am concerned that the L3800 might be a little light to pick it up safely. I have my eye on a used 5' bush hog brand mower, but I bet it weighs 800 pounds or more. I want to buy a 5.5'-6' disk harrow which the L3800 will handle fine. My property is hilly, with mud, water, stumps, rocks, and springs so I really want 4wd for added safety, flotation and traction. I'm done with steering with the brakes. Chemotherapy has left me with less strength and slower reflexes, making the old 444 a bit dangerous. Dependability is important from this point on.

I looked at other brands, some referred to as less expensive than Kubota in these forums, including Mahindra, LS, Mitsubishi, Montana, Nortrac, Agco, Joe Smo..... Ahhh! I haven't found any of those in the 38-40 HP that aren't more than a Kubota. I'm not picky on brands. I'd settle for any of the American made tractors used or new, or the imports that have a good track record, as long as they are in my budget. I like the dependability of a gear tranny, which is the cheapest anyway. I just need the following:

[*]38HP minimum, 50 max. (And I need advice on the weight issue of a 38 HP)
[*]4 wheel drive
[*]diesel of course
[*]1000 hours or less, new or remanufactured
[*]Rear remote hydraulics to run a log splitter and occasionally a seed drill
[*]Power steering
[*]Rear PTO

My initial budget was to keep the tractor under $10k so I can afford the bush hog and disk. Is that possible? I'd consider paying $13,900 for a new L3800. I'd have to wait till next year to buy my disk and settle on a used cheap mower. Is there another brand tractor with the same performance as the L3800 for less? Where can I find used tractors in this range near Ashland, AL? Suggestions on dealers and tractors would be very helpful. Sorry to write a novel here, but I've spent many many hours researching and have begun to realize that all the experience on this site can save me a lot of time and possibly regret. So thanks in advance everyone for your help. Ahhh, sweet gums have grown 1/4" while I'm typing.
 
   / Help me match needs with budget #2  
Just food for thought, I suggest you try to match the tractor to your needs and then adjust the budget. Also consider widening your search area and consider all brands. The less constraints you put on your search the more you will have to choose from.

Try to look at Tractorhouse and Machinefinder for machines available in your area. Also tractor forums used listings and any magazines and flyers. Good luck with your search.
 
   / Help me match needs with budget #3  
I would stay away from the imports "remanufacturered" mostly means new paint and maybe new fan belt. I bought a Greymarket Yanmar 4220D with a FEL for $10500 and it took me three flushings of the hydraulic system and filter change and clean of intake screen to get the slimy clay or whatever it was to quit stopping up the filters. Other than that it has been a pretty good tractor and engine is top quality with no oil usage. But I would not buy one again.
A 50 HP (engine or PTO)tractor with 1000 hours and 4x4 should not be that hard to find. Perhaps it is finding a 4x4 without FEL that is hard but not impossible.
Check Craigslist for cities in a 300 mile radius of your house along with Tractorhouse.com and MachineryFinder. Richie Bros. Auctions is another source to look at if you have the time. They have auctions all over the country about every 3 months.
An example from Craigslist in Atlanta a bit smaller than you were looking at but capable of mowing with a 6 foot mower.
Kubota L2800 4X4 - $9200 (Dawsonville)

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Date: 2012-05-08, 1:08PM EDT
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I have a kubota L2800 4X4 with only 111 hrs, new 6' box blade, and a 5' bush hog brand bush hog.
Tractor $9,200
Tractor and 6' Box Blade $9,700
Tractor and bush hog $10,000
Tractor and Bush hog, and Box blade. $10, 300. These prices are firm.
Please call 678-735-9986 if your interested.
Thanks for Looking
 
   / Help me match needs with budget #4  
heres a link to a 4400 model John Deere. Just watch out for scam artist. Never send any money and never let them ship for you or take paypal only as payment. Those are usually scams.

ss2h5-2973354242@sale.craigslist.org
 
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  • Thread Starter
#5  
Thanks Gary,
Thanks for all the tips. I've been searching Craigslist, but will hit the others you mentioned. Your story is not the first I have read about the "reconditioned" Yanmar's having that clay like substance in the hydraulic system. I pretty much quit looking for one of those anyway. I'll check out the link to the JD 4400. I know that tractor can have a belly mower but do you know if it can handle a 6' 3 point hitch mower?
 
   / Help me match needs with budget #6  
If I were you, I'd check out the new Yanmar brand of tractors. Either a used Cub Cadet / Yanmar or the newer ones that don't have the Cub Cadet name on them. I just purchased a Yanmar EX 3200 and, having owned many types and sizes of tractors over the years, this one has the horsepower needed for everything I need it to do and is built for the long haul while costing a lot less than an orange, green, or blue tractor.
 

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