Help me pick a mig welder

   / Help me pick a mig welder #1  

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Guys, I'm in the market for a mig welder. I currently have a stick welder, but it's a big mother and doesn't do anything thinner than 1/8". The arc tends to become unstable at the low amperages and if you don't book along you'll burn through. Generally I'm comfortable with anything over 3/16". Although the 7010 rod is multi-position, I really have a tough time with anything other than horizontal. Sometimes this has forced me to rotate the piece so I can keep my weld horizontal. With bigger pieces this can get entertaining... and dangerous. For these reasons, I really want to get into a mig welder. I'm thinking that I'll keep my old welder for hardfacing or nickel rod. I'd really like to get a Miller or Lincoln 250 amp mig, but they're just too expensive for me. I've found a couple of options locally and would like to have your opinion as to which is the best choice for me.

#1 Ltec 225 $675
Just your basic mig welder with 4 heat ranges, a adjustable heat control and wire feed dial. The welder is not spool gun ready, but WeldMart has the panel. The spool gun is obscenely expensive, so I'll probably never own one. As I understand it, the Ltec was a really good welder, but the line has been since discontinued and the company has been sold. Parts are not available from the mfr. but WeldMart advertises that they parts for this unit. I don't know if I can find a owners manual. I believe this welder will handle anything from 16g to 3/8"+. That'll cover most of the material that I weld. When I stick weld thicker sections, I'm already doing multiple passes as I don't have a rod bigger than 5/32".

#2 Lincoln SP-150 $500 w/a tall cylinder
Although this is a older model, it is full featured. This welder has burn back, spot, stitch and it's spool gun ready. This spool gun is about $220 new. But at 150a it is only 20% duty cycle (130a/30%). With that short duty cycle, I doubt if the welder will handle anything over 3/16". Looks like this welder might be comparable to a new 180a unit. One thought is that I could keep some rods on hand for thicker sections, but I still won't be able to do anything but horizontal work. It's my understanding that this welder comes with a short 7' gun and has trouble feeding the wire with longer cables.
 
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   / Help me pick a mig welder #2  
I'd stay away from the Ltec for the parts and service issues you mentioned. Even if WeldMart claims to have parts; do you want to be the guinea pig to find out if their claim is true?

I don't know anything about the specific Lincoln model you mentioned.

How about a MIG in the 210 amp range? I have a Millermatic 210 with a range of 22ga to 3/8" in a single pass (manufacturer's claims). I've welded as thin as 16ga to as thick as 3/8". Mind you I have trouble on anything 1/8" and below, which I attribute to the operator, not the machine.

Stick with a name brand if you can afford it for parts and service.
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #3  
A cheap welder is just that. There are several good welders out there, but you absolutely will not be disappointed with a Miller. Whatever you buy, choose a model with 220 volt input.
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #5  
You don't need to weld anything in one pass,so....

.035 wire uses what,about 120 amps 19 volts? so you would have better than a 30 percent duty cycle burning .035 wire.

You can order millers and lincolns from welding supply places,you should go to millers and lincolns sites,see what all they sell,as far as what needs you might have and than see if you can figure out prices.
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #6  
My vote would also be for the MillerMatic...

I was in AirWeld yesterday looking at them. Never go wrong with Miller... the quality remains long after the price is forgotten.
If you get a Lincoln, get it from a Weld Supply rather than a big box store.
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #7  
I have both a Miller and a Hobart. Both are great units but I tend to use the Hobart more. Mainly because its sized right for most of my work. I would not be afraid to buy a Lincoln either.

For the home owner a Hobart is plenty good.

Chris
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #8  
Lincoln 180 from a welding supply house, not HD.
They had the "same" welder, but it was 15-20 pounds
lighter. Corners were cut somewhere.

Bill
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #9  
You mean you can't weld flat? ,just horazontal?
And if you can't weld with stick anything but horazontal[for some strange reason],than you won't be able to with a mig either..

Maybe I'm missing something??
 
   / Help me pick a mig welder #10  
I bought a Lincoln at HD itwas on display and missing the tip for the gun. The welding houses don,t sell ANY parts for the big box welders thty are made over seas just for HD and the only place I could get the tip was for HD to special order it. At first they were only going to sell the complete gun for almost what I paid for the welder. Now I know why someone took the tip. After much discussion they ordered the tip. I have only used the welder 22 or 3 times not very good.
 

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