Help on Upgrading a Trailer

   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #11  
Afternoon Dave,

I've noticed two different techniques for securing two by decking to trailers like the one you're describing. One of course is the angle iron at the back as has been described by another poster.

The other and probably the one you're facing is a flat bar, usually three sixteenths or a quarter by one and a half inch at the front. This method allows you to remove the bar by breaking the welds and then lift out the boards.

If it's done like most of them are you'll notice the welds are spotted across the front of the trailer and not welded at the ends. This allows the retainer bar to be removed very easily.

Keep in mind your average weld is strong in one to three directions but weak in at least one line of pull. We call taking advantage of that trait "breaking the back of the weld."

The retainer bar is strong going down and sideways. It's also strong in shear. But it's weak if you pull it up. So chances are you don't need to cut the welds or even grind on them. Use a breaker bar or wrecking bar and force the retainer bar up. When it's as high as you can get it with the bar get out a two pound hammer and bring the bar to vertical. A push back down to horizontal should free it. Of course this won't work if the ends are welded to the sides along with the front.

If you can't easily weld it back in place after you get the new wood in consider using some bolts. I would double nut them and not try to bind down the boards, just retain them. Retaining them allows them to shrink and expand at their own rate which is quite different from the rate of the steel.

I don't like pine two bys for trailer or truck bed flooring. Treated is not any better in my experience. As I understand it the treated is for bugs and exposure to the stuff in the soil. It doesn't do squat for extending the life of wood beyond that.

I might be wrong, have been before, will be again.

Check with your circle of friends and acquaintenances. One of them surely knows a place to get oak timbers from a mill. It is worth the investment.

While you have the trailer neked go over the welds. What you're looking for is cracks. You can see them by the rust line when you brush the area clean. Welds screw up the metallurgy of the steel. It never takes vibration the same again. Your trailer is one vibrating son of a gun whose mother was a pistol. It's much better to find a bad place now than going down the road with a load of your wife's finest in tow and have a failure.
 
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#12  
Hi Harv,

The fabricator of my trailer used the retainer plate in the front as you have described, but also decided to weld a couple of inches at each end /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I just bought a few abrasive discs to put on my 4.5" hand grinder for next weekend.

I am also going to investigate some 3/4" galvanized steel grating. I am going to get some price information for 2 pieces - 40.75" x 16'-0". I have some peeps in the steel fab industry. Let's see how much this will cost.

Yooper Dave
 
   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #13  
Just a thought........will the new boards flex enough in the middle to slip the ends in.......?? Stick one end in and bow the board in the middle and slip the other end in maybe.

Jerry
 
   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #14  
Having to rip a board isn't such a bad deal. Stick the ripped board in the center, that way when you load the tractor you can line up the center of the hood with the odd board and drive on up without worrying about getting off to the side. My TN 65 has a little chrome piece in the center of the hood and I think that this is why they put it there. I used to drive the tilt bed lowboy when I worked at an IH dealer when I was a kid. When you had to load a swather or a combine or an 875 Versitile that was the only way to load it. The trailer would disappear when you were 20' away so it was line it up on the center line and cross your fingers.
 
   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #15  
I purchased my lumber from a local saw mill, was not treated but I sprayed when I got it home. It is six years old and still looks good. The rough cut lumber also gave some traction because it wasn't so smooth.
Also might not have to rip a board as rough cut is dimensional lumber.
 
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#16  
Hi Steve,

I figure if I put 4- 2x10's on either side of a 2x8, I should end up with 81.25" which is only .25" less than the frame width /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif. The .25" will be dispersed throughout the width of the trailer.

The 2x8 will be centered, and should give a good guide for loading.

The back slot is also about 1.5" high, so I need to have a material 1.5" thick or less, or dap the ends of all the members or grind off all the welds at the back of the trailer also /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif.

I also bought some wire sanding discs so I can take off any surface rust, and repaint as required.

Yooper Dave
 
   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #17  
I would stick with a thicker board and fix the ends or the holddowns at the end of the trailer.
Don't want sagging boards in the middle!
 
   / Help on Upgrading a Trailer #18  
Look at the ends of your boards when you're building your deck. Make sure you put them in with the arc of the grain marks on the end with the high point in the middle like a frown, not like a smile. As your boards age and dry, you'll have them raised slightly in the middle instead of lower in the middle for drainage purposes.

I hope my explanation makes sense. It's a lot easier to show than to tell, I'm afraid. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 

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