Hinomoto E182

[RJB]

I had a problem with a E182 today that I thought I would get some feedback on. I had left the tractor parked on a hill with a low fuel level. When I tried to start it, it would not fire. The temperature was 30F. Thinking it had gotten air in the fuel system I pushed it in the shop and proceded to bleed the system for an hour. It still would not start. I was getting lots of white smoke. This was done using glow plugs at 70f shop temperature. Finally after giving up for 10 minutes or so I used starting fluid and it started right up. Do you think it could have been over loaded with fuel? The tractor started fine after I shut it down. Thanks for any thoughts anyone might have.
Rick

 

[Tractors4u]

First take that can of starting fluid, show it to your tractor and promise your tractor you will never squirt any more of that vile substance into it's intake ever again. Starter fluid is not good for a small diesel like yours. I don't think it would have gotten over loaded with fuel. I believe it would have started anyway. Has it been getting slower to start lately? Pull one of the glow plugs and inspect it. Is it swollen on the tip? Connect the plug to a 12v source for a couple of seconds, does it start to warm up?

 

[EFC]

Brent, don’t tell people to throw their ether out..... How am I going to sell them a new engine with that kind of advice /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[Bird]

<font color=blue>used starting fluid and it started</font color=blue>

/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gifReminds me of the last time I visited my Kubota dealer in Waco. He had a small, but very pretty, Yanmar on the lot; first one I'd ever seen there. He said it wouldn't start one day, so the owner used starting fluid. The Kubota dealer took it in trade; didn't say what they allowed for it, but I'll bet it wasn't much 'cause they had to replace a busted piston and a few other parts - rebuilt the engine in other words./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[normde2001]

"proceded to bleed the system for an hour"
What was happening when you were bleeding the system for a hour? Were you still getting air, no fuel flow, strong flow at injectors when cranking? Sounds like you still were not getting fuel to the injectors properly.

 

[pruntyc]

I think the answer to the problem lies in your words you left it with a low fuel level. So you probably had a air lock somewhere in the lines, that cut off the fuel somewhere, and it finally worked out.

 

[RJB]

I was getting fuel at one injector and fuel with bubbles at the other one. I know that starting fluid is bad for small diesels, but I had give up on other methods. When it warms up I will check it more( haven't started it since I shut it down). Proir to this I would get black smoke and it would start right up. Thanks for the input. Rick

 

[Tractors4u]

Did you top it off with fuel before you started bleeding it? I am glad to hear that you bleed it at the injectors. I have used the bleed screw on the Hino's before but it isn't a fast a bleeding at the injector. I would have someone crank it while you man the wrench and when you see no more bubbles tighten it down.

 

[RJB]

I guess it just takes a long time to get all the air out. Thought I was going to burn the starter up. I started at the filter and did it by the book. Still waiting for warmer weather. 8 degrees here this morning. Not much into working on a tractor today(just talk about it).
Rick

 

[pruntyc]

8 degrees here to, and I live in MS, I guess, I live in North MS, so maybe that is why it got so cold. But one thing about it, at least here, it won't last long, like it does in a lot of places.