hinomoto E2304 wont start HELP!

[cajun Dan]

fired up the tractor hooked up the mower, one pass down the field,started bogging
down shifted to lower gear got rrs up again ran into taller grass bogged again
but it put out bunch blackish smoke and died . Didnt run out of gas ,it would not fire up again ,got my pick up pulled back to barn. so far checked filter good flow out of injector bleeder,found one bad glow plug,still wont start
tries but seems it is rich sooty smoke and kind of putput but no bang to
start like usual,checked valve lash ,bled injectors .what else should i do?
any help would be really appreatiated. this tractor is smarter than me i guess!

 

[MJPetersen]

,still wont start
tries but seems it is rich sooty smoke and kind of putput but no bang to
start like usual,

Cajun,

You are getting fuel, whether it is at the right time or not may be subject to debate, but there is fuel. Diesels also need air. Did the filter collapse or something else block the air flow to the engine? On the 2 cycle Detroits they even have an emergency shut off which is just a flap in the blower inlet that cuts off the air. Not recommended shut off but works. If you try to start it with the flap closed you get "rich sooty smoke and kind of putput but no bang to start like usual." Simple but check it out. Sometimes the simple things are what stumps us.

Mike in Warsaw

 

[cajun Dan]

mj peterson,
thanks for the info. Took the air cleaner element out& tried to start it
still the same .Took the whole canister off and looked through it,nada
the tach reads about 250 rpm when cranking,this should be fast enough
ya think? Im still at a loss . any other suggestions?

 

[MJPetersen]

I am thinking---Make sure there is no obstruction in the intake right up to the manifold. There was a mechanic who had a turbo off a Cat scraper and had stuffed a rag in the outlet pipe from the turbo to keep dirt out (good thing), but forgot to take it out when he put the new turbo on (bad thing). We found the rag blocking the intercooler.

Well if you have air and black indicates fuel there is only one other major thing to make a diesel go and that is heat from compression.

Tell me a bit about the history. How long have you owned the tractor, how many hours, where did you get the tractor, and any interesting history prior to this incident.

I am not familiar at all with Hinomoto so do not know anything about the timing or pressures. You have a good spray pattern at the nozzles? Maybe a compression check is in order. Specifically check for a leak between cylinders. ie pressurize one and listen for a leak to a second adjacent.

I checked the forum and see that you were having heating and coolant problems. I suspect that you are leaking significant compression between cylinders and that is why.

Mike

 

[mit]

hey could the govner be stuck wide open causung too much fuel. just a guess here.

 

[cajun Dan]

Hey, thanks for all the info. Found the problem blown head gasket
between 2&3 cylinder. less than 100 lb compression on 2&3
410 lb on number 1cyl. blew air in number 2 & air came out number
3cyl. pulled head and big hole in gasket.
Now where do I find a replacement head gasket,MF 1030,Duetz 5230,
hinimoto 2304 are all the basic same engine. by the way had this
tractor 8 months never worked on a diesel before,not as hard as I
thought it would be!

 

[MJPetersen]

Now a head gasket that i could not help you with.

You might try this guy, as he said that he had access to parts for Hinomoto.

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