home back-up generator help

   / home back-up generator help #11  
oh ... and one thing I didn't notice in Mark's post ... I have planted several 6 foot copper grounding rods where I station the generator (outside the garage door) ... and I connect the ground cable up to the generator before I start it up and before I plug in the house cable.


too bad that common sense ain't
 
   / home back-up generator help #12  
Swapping plugs is a good solution. However, overload protection for the generator feed line should be maintained. The plug rating shouldn't be greater than the rating of smallest gauge wire in the feed. Generator main breakers shouldn't be relied on to supply over-load protection, because somebody may come along and plug in a larger generator. A plug supplies built-in overload protection, because a larger generator would have a different plug. However, some inspectors probably would agree that a breaker in the transfer panel could supply enough protection for the feed line.
 
   / home back-up generator help #13  
A properly wired generator that feeds a residential service uses the service ground. However, supplemental grounding is a real good idea, especially if it's connected all the time. Connecting a ground wire during a power outage isn't usually what's on my mind.

The issue here is that if a generator looses it's ground, its common potential floats and can be different than ground potential. That means that somebody inside can get zapped when touching an appliance and plumbing for example. That's also why backup panels must have 3-point breakers in my area. Repair linemen get knocked off poles by improperly wired or grounded generators that can back-feed through the neutral line in 2-point breakers.

In my hookup, my feed runs under-ground from a shed behind the garage. I put in supplemental ground plates for the garage and all outbuildings. The generator ground is wired to the ground circuit in the garage wiring. With this connection, the generator gets its ground both from service ground through the feed-line as well as through the generator's ground connection. The generator ground is pretty bomb proof, and also, a ground is already connected if I want to run an extension cord from the generator without connecting the backup feed line. Multiple ground paths are a minor efficiency consideration, but multiple ground paths provide better protection against lightening.

It's still hard for me to believe that a licensed electrician would terminate a generator feed line in a receptacle, rather than a plug, and not even a twist-lock type.
 
   / home back-up generator help #14  
Just thought I'd throw this in. In the past month our utility company began offering a backup generator hookup from Generlink (www.generlink.com). At the present, this hookup is only available through the utility company. Monthly charge is about $10.
 
   / home back-up generator help #15  
That sounds like a real good deal. I probably have about $1000 into my hookup and I did the work myself.

I think the utilities have an interest in providing safe hookups for backup generators so they probably keep the service cheap. Linemen have been injured and even killed by improperly connected backup generators that backfed the neutral lines. People can also blow up their equipment and maybe burn down their places by having both the utility and generator power on at the same time. That can't happen with an approved hookup.

A proper hookup is a real good idea. Just throw a switch, then start the generator and wait for the utility to get their power back up. Nothing to think about or mess around with. Most people don't think too well when doing something like trying to hookup a generator during a blizzard in the middle of the night. The consequences of screwing up can be pretty terrible. $10 a month sounds like a bargain.
 
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I purchased a generator yesterday at http://www.norwall.com. Good selection and pretty decent prices. It seems people from OK, AR and northeast texas have invaded the dallas area and snapped up all the generators, heaters, and kerosine. Oh well, they need it worse than I do at the moment. At least I have electricity.

The generator I purchased actually solved the original problem I posted. The Generac 7500EXL actually comes with a 50-amp outlet wired to a 14-50R receptable. Should be here by Friday.

Thanks for all the input.
 

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