Homemade Mini Firewood Processor

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As I said before, it's just me, but guns and chainsaws have two ends and I know which one I want to be on.:thumbsup:

exactly, from what I can see this guy seems to have a very good idea about his invention.

 

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In this guys defense, it appears that the camera angle makes it look like the saw is much closer to his hand and arm than it actually based on the opening shot. Still makes me cringe though and I don't want to run it.

Buzz Saw Saved From Scrap Part 3 of 4 With Farmall Super A - YouTube How about something like this, would it be better or worse? I see it has shields but in all honesty what good are they, wide open while using. I have used something very similar, the only difference is that it hooked straight to the 3pt and pto, and had NO shields. This is a very common piece of equipment, still made and used today. The newer models have shields but they are still open while being used. Not only that but you push towards the blade one slip and ....WOW THATS GOTTA HURT.

 

[ericher69]

Did you watch the video he has his safety equipment on Your idea about 2 hands versus a solid pivot shaft and one hand is basically showing you either did not watch the video or just plain don't understand the workings of a saw. To answer your question yes I do wear safety equipment, thanks for your concern.



You're not trying to save the guy from anything, instead your just cackling like a bunch of old hens at a "burn your bra convention"

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I quess your not a man unless you whine about everyone else, pass judgement and criticize everything



I'm sure most of us do, so what's your point? I didn't see any body parts fly off!



Nope that doesn't make you an "armchair quarterback" but your b***hing about anothers ingenuity and productivity does


If you noticed my post, I wrote it could have some extra shields etc... But I still say it seems fine as long as someone with common sense uses it. Still would say it is a safer setup then a regular chainsaw. But hey what do I know, according to you I cut wood while naked and feel that real men would only use 1 hand! Now if I could just keep those black flies from bitting me in the arse............

It's not the pivot point and one hand that I have an issue with but the proximity to the arm. Think what you will but two hands on a tool are ALWAYS better than one as your full attention is focused on the task at hand. You have no free hand to reach or do something else possibly distracting you to cause an injury.

I do care and try and reduce injury and mortality when I can...if that to you sir is cackling...oh wel

How's constructive criticism whining? You obviously don't understand the term.

Yet

Open minded people don't mind suggestions to make a tool or a procedure safer...you have a serious attitude problem

I obviously won't change your mind or vise versa.
I think the guys contraption is great if it saves him time...but at what cost?
Question; have you ever treated someone with a chain saw injury to a body part? I know and have (don't want a medal) but do know the devastation that it causes to body parts!
I'm done here have fun trashing me because I think that a device could be safer

 

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It's not the pivot point and one hand that I have an issue with but the proximity to the arm. Think what you will but two hands on a tool are ALWAYS better than one as your full attention is focused on the task at hand. You have no free hand to reach or do something else possibly distracting you to cause an injury.

And I'm positive you've never driven your vehicle tractor or anything else with just one hand

I do care and try and reduce injury and mortality when I can...if that to you sir is cackling...oh wel

okay you're my hero, happy? What law should we pass next week gripper seats for toilets, after all folks do fall off the can.

How's constructive criticism whining? You obviously don't understand the term.

You came on here putting down someones invention that is no more dangerous then running a regular saw, whiner comes to mind. He did not force you to watch him nor did he make you you run his machine.

Yet

Open minded people don't mind suggestions to make a tool or a procedure safer...you have a serious attitude problem

I obviously won't change your mind or vise versa.

Well we finally agree. Someday someone will reivent the wheel, but for now we work with what we have. I don't have a serious attitude problem I do have a problem with people getting their panties in a wad over other peoples business that does NOT effect them, and putting them down for NO reason.

I think the guys contraption is great if it saves him time...but at what cost?

Agreed it is a good "contraption". What cost, hmmmm, well looks like a saw horse, electric saw, some other metal odds and ends and that should cover it. Unless of course he didn't allready have the glasses gloves hat ..........

Question; have you ever treated someone with a chain saw injury to a body part? I know and have (don't want a medal) but do know the devastation that it causes to body parts!

Yep, sure have, so what. Many things happen to people many times every day, including the super safety patrol items.

I'm done here have fun trashing me because I think that a device could be safer

I don't believe I trashed you personally I did however find your OVER dramatization of this gentlemans machine rediculous. I was not going to respond to this thread until I had seen all the quick nay sayers. Check out the post I made with the video(#22) and tell me your thoughts then tell me again how horrible, scary, nightmarish this guys machine is (bwhahahahahahahaha). Well I quess if your done putting this guys machine and me down than that's it. It's good with me, let the folks that run saws run them and leave it be!

 

[brokenknee]

Buzz Saw Saved From Scrap Part 3 of 4 With Farmall Super A - YouTube How about something like this, would it be better or worse? I see it has shields but in all honesty what good are they, wide open while using. I have used something very similar, the only difference is that it hooked straight to the 3pt and pto, and had NO shields. This is a very common piece of equipment, still made and used today. The newer models have shields but they are still open while being used. Not only that but you push towards the blade one slip and ....WOW THATS GOTTA HURT.

embedded video for those that don't like to click on linkys.

 

[MBTRAC]

Each to their own....I guess it all comes down to personal choice & depends on the value each of us place on ones experience (or lack thereof), the (sometimes inflated) opinion of their own abilities, and possibly the low value put on our own personal wellbeing.....and of course the value of our wellbeing to our family.

Conceptually I am all for the better "mouse trap", though practically there are sound safety reasons why these self made "shortcuts" processing firewood are at best considered a potential life threating compromise.

With 35yrs+ of professional chainsaw use & logging experience, I feel extremely comfortable to fell/reclaim most trees, would I use this "mini fire wood processor" or a firewood/breakdown circular saw ? No thanks, not in this lifetime.

Why? There're very good reasons chainsaws have mandatory fitment of chainbrakes & inertia cut outs & position the operators body parts at the furthest extremities to the blade. All safety related & generally the result of the inexperienced &/or "undervalued" operators paying a considerable personal price in product development in the past - I'll leave it for any remaining professional operators of hand feed firewood/breakdown circular saws to comment on this practice, there maybe one or two around still around who made it to retirement.

Also seems to me from the first post on this thread the operator of the "mini-forewood processor" clearly displays their (in)experience by stacking multiple small logs under the path of the chainsaw cut - a recipe for kicking, kickback & jamming .......

Anyways, I'm not quite sure why anyone would have a need to cut "mini-firewood"............where do they burn this stuff in a shoebox or a Hibachi BBQ?

Then again each to their own, and I guess if somebody in the full knowledge of the risk willingly puts his life on the line as a crash test dummy maybe we can put it down to the evolutionary process & Darwin's survival of the fittest.....conversely, we as taxpayers also shouldn't have to then foot the bill for rehabilitation or be the victims of increased legislation/cost associated with the mandatory safety devices to prevent those individuals **** bent on self injury....

I'd respectfully suggest if it's taking too long to cut firewood, don't seek a solution improvising with/modify chainsaws - either buy firewood, or better still switch on the AC as you probably shouldn't be trusted with matches.......

 

[KennyG]

This thread has probably gone on too long, but my real concern about these devices (both the chain saw and the buzz saw) is that the blades more or less move toward the operator. It seems to me they would work as well with the table reversed so the blades move away from the operator. I understand they are built in the obvious way, like a miter or chop saw, but that isn't necessarily the best way. Would it be logical to pull a circular saw towards yourself?

 

[kubotakid USA]

Buzz Saw Saved From Scrap Part 3 of 4 With Farmall Super A - YouTube How about something like this, would it be better or worse? I see it has shields but in all honesty what good are they, wide open while using. I have used something very similar, the only difference is that it hooked straight to the 3pt and pto, and had NO shields. This is a very common piece of equipment, still made and used today. The newer models have shields but they are still open while being used. Not only that but you push towards the blade one slip and ....WOW THATS GOTTA HURT.

The pain of the cutting is not hard to deal with,..Its the arm thats missing a hand thats gona hurt for a very long tyme...

kubotakid :united-states:

 

[bubbacuse77]

It is painful to watch that video, and don't really see the time savings by lifting the wood to the saw vs. bringing the saw to the wood. I absolutely think it is dangerous in its current form but it could be "safer" if he just offset the handle from directly overtop the saw to about 1-2 feet to the side.

 

[deezler]

Yikes, add me to the list of doubters. Putting your arm up next to a running chainsaw blade, then pulling it down towards you? No way. Would much rather be holding the saw and cutting down into a pile of wood.

 

[Domush]

That last saw (the red circular saw) could easily be made safe if it was simply reversed. Turn the entire table around and move the handle to the other side.

Then wood can be placed on the table and cut by pulling down on the handle from the saw blade side. Then you are never exposed to the open blade. As a bonus, you can now use your body weight to pull the handle down instead of lifting it.

One of those inventions where the guy made a good product but was clueless when it came to usability and safety.

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[Piperflyer]

Forget it

 

[Domush]

Apparently I jumped into a thread with some boiling blood to get a response like that. I'll leave you to be dismissive by yourself.

 

[Smokepole62]

Buzz Saw Saved From Scrap Part 3 of 4 With Farmall Super A - YouTube How about something like this, would it be better or worse? I see it has shields but in all honesty what good are they, wide open while using. I have used something very similar, the only difference is that it hooked straight to the 3pt and pto, and had NO shields. This is a very common piece of equipment, still made and used today. The newer models have shields but they are still open while being used. Not only that but you push towards the blade one slip and ....WOW THATS GOTTA HURT.

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Your wasting your time trying to convince anyone .
If it looks dangerous, it must be banned.
When I was growing up at the "Little house in the big woods", we cut a lot wood with a buzz saw. It sure ran smoother than the one in the video. We had a proper sized belt
with good alignment so the belt didn't slap. The push table also worked smoother. As for why we buzzed "pole wood", when you have twenty cord of 4" and smaller it
just makes it easier to cut the poles and then stack them to seaon. This was used for a cast iron kitchen stove that wouldn't take wood any bigger than 4 or 5 inch. I was the
"throw away man" for my grandfather starting at about 10 or 11 years. It wasn't play, it was work. You had to pay attention to what you were doing. I'm now 50 and still
have all my digits . If it came to freezing to death or cutting wood, I'd run that buzz saw in a heart beat. Seems like the people who think every activity is dangerous and needs
banning, also have a problem getting their 28 yr. olds off their furniture and out the door. Rant over.

 

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Your wasting your time trying to convince anyone .
If it looks dangerous, it must be banned.
When I was growing up at the "Little house in the big woods", we cut a lot wood with a buzz saw. It sure ran smoother than the one in the video. We had a proper sized belt
with good alignment so the belt didn't slap. The push table also worked smoother. As for why we buzzed "pole wood", when you have twenty cord of 4" and smaller it
just makes it easier to cut the poles and then stack them to seaon. This was used for a cast iron kitchen stove that wouldn't take wood any bigger than 4 or 5 inch. I was the
"throw away man" for my grandfather starting at about 10 or 11 years. It wasn't play, it was work. You had to pay attention to what you were doing. I'm now 50 and still
have all my digits . If it came to freezing to death or cutting wood, I'd run that buzz saw in a heart beat. Seems like the people who think every activity is dangerous and needs
banning, also have a problem getting their 28 yr. olds off their furniture and out the door. Rant over.

that's my thoughts also. I don't really want to flame anyone and everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm just sick and tired of all these "save yourself laws". I don't care how many safety devices are in place, if the operator is a twit someones going to get hurt. Personally I feel that some of these safety devices have helped dumb down society. People have the illusion well if it's got such and such safety blah blah then they don't need to pay attention, just watch folks driving their cars for example(putting on make up, texting, carrying on a converstaion with the rear seat passenger etc..) I quess I was raised different then most of todays youngsters, have respect for the machine you're operating. I've cut wood for many years, and lots of it, I'm definatley not perfect and have made my share of mistakes(usually tired or in a hurry) but still have all my body parts. I don't care what safety device is attached, NOTHING will beat common sense and operator knowledge. I also have to add, if one is afraid of a device then their best bet is to just simply stay away.

 

[aczlan]

I quess I was raised different then most of todays youngsters, have respect for the machine you're operating. I've cut wood for many years, and lots of it, I'm definatley not perfect and have made my share of mistakes(usually tired or in a hurry) but still have all my body parts. I don't care what safety device is attached, NOTHING will beat common sense and operator knowledge. I also have to add, if one is afraid of a device then their best bet is to just simply stay away.

I agree, the most important piece of safety equipment is between your ears, BUT if you are making it, why not make it a little bit safer for that last piece of wood when you are tired at the end of the day to help protect yourself?
On that handle, it would only take moving the bolt holes to get the handle out of line with the blade and to a safer place.


Aaron Z

 

[turnkey4099]

It was much the same when I was a kid. I was the 'take-off' guy for dad. Yes, I also have all my appendages. That does not take away the danger factor of those buzz saws, especially the ones with no guards.

Harry K