Homeowners Insurance - how much?

   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #11  
Real estate cost and replacement costs are not the same. If you decide not to rebuild on the same site many insurance policies will only pay actual cash value. Which means they will depreciate the value of the building and contents and pay you what it is worth essentially pennies on the dollar. You may end up with only 20 or 30% instead of the amount that is on your insurance policy, make sure you talk to your agent about ACV versus replacement cost.
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #12  
I have been told by every insurance company that I called that,they don't sell anything other than replacement coverage for a homeowners policy.. If any of you guys find an insurance company that will just sell the coverage that you want.(ie 80,90,100 K) Please let me know. . I currently have AAA.. They were best price I could find through an independent agent.
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #13  
I've had this house in rural Northern California for four years now, and have shopped homeowner's coverage every year. I started with AAA, who also covered my city home. The rate was comparable the first year, then took a big jump. AAA said it was because I'm in an area rated for high wildfire danger, which according to the maps published by CalFire, I am. I maintain more than 100 feet of clearance, have removed trees that overhung the house, and have a concrete tile roof and stucco walls, so there's nothing more I can do to better mitigate that danger. So I switched to another company, Amica, which came highly rated by Consumer's Reports. They quoted a much better rate than AAA, but after I signed up and had already cancelled AAA, they raised it another 20%. I was flabbergasted, but their only excuse was that their underwriters forced the change. I switched to Liberty Mutual the next year and now have a rate better than even that first year at AAA. Their claims reputation isn't great, but so far they've been real easy to work with as in no long waits on the phone and no run arounds when I ask questions about what's covered and what's not. But the real test will come when I get the the bill for next year's premium.

One thing I did find out is that most insurance companies rely on the ISO rating assigned to both the property and the fire department serving that property. It's called the Property Protection Class (PPC), and anything 9 or higher will significantly impact the insurance premium, or even an insurance company's inclination to insure a property. ISO changed their rating system last year, the result being that homeowners in high fire hazard zones like mine, or that live more than 7 miles or 15 minutes from the fire station, are seeing pretty steep increases in their premiums. If the closest fire station is either volunteer or is not manned 24x7x365, that will negatively impact their rating and therefor the insure-ability of the property as well. I was shopping for a new home (bare land, actually) last year and this was one of the factors that I evaluated at each location. I also called a few insurance companies for one or two places I was seriously considering, and some of the big companies like AAA, State Farm, Farmers, etc. wouldn't even write a policy if the property was at PPC9 or higher. When I mentioned this to more than one real estate agent, they would pass along the name of a local independent agent. Invariably when I reviewed those rates, they were very high, were offered by companies that I'd never heard of, and had very low Dun and Bradstreet ratings.
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #14  
Got a letter from the credit union stating that, because I was a member, I qualify for lower rates through Liberty Mutual. I called (just this week) and just for my homeowners they (Liberty Mutual) were going to be $200.00 more per yr than AAA and they weren't including the xtra insurance I have on my de-thatched garage
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #15  
Got a letter from the credit union stating that, because I was a member, I qualify for lower rates through Liberty Mutual. I called (just this week) and just for my homeowners they (Liberty Mutual) were going to be $200.00 more per yr than AAA and they weren't including the xtra insurance I have on my de-thatched garage

Yep, credit union and AARP push their home/auto/life insurance to me, special rates of course, and none of that has ever been as good as I get with AAA. And the same is true with Geico and Progressive, in spite of their obnoxious TV commercials and magazine ads.
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #16  
If you're in a low risk fire area and have close by 24x7x365 manned fire stations, you'll have lots of companies knocking on your door to sell you homeowner's insurance. As I mentioned, AAA won't write a policy on my place now even though they insured it when I first bought it. Neither Geico nor Progressive will write one, either. If it keeps going that way, I'll end up in the special state sponsored assigned risk pool and pay a ton of cash for marginal coverage. But since the tree hugging hikers, careless hunters, and out and out crazies insist in burning down half the state's forests each year, a lot of insurance companies don't like the odds in California much anymore and have left. The rest charge a premium, but so far Liberty Mutual is the lowest I've found.
 
   / Homeowners Insurance - how much? #17  
It is a bit of a scam when you think about it...they calculate "replacement cost" on the basis of a new house using $xx per sq ft. I think that means your foundation is going to burn as is your well and septic. But on the other side, I guess in a total loss everybody seems to have owned rare collectibles too. Around here distance from a working fire department is a big factor...we have volunteer dept not far away but I guess they are a joke (24 hour service guaranteed) so we get rated on the basis of the distance from a city 12 miles away. Ain't cheap.
 

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