massey collector
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How much extra weight on a box blade to get the rippers into 4 inches of frozen grassy soil?
Al
AlHow much extra weight needed?
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nybirdman
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Looks like a "wait till spring job".More likely to break something in that frozen ground.
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It doesn't look frozen to me so not much weight needed. I used to strap a bunch of 2" thick x12"x 18" pavers on my box blade to make it dig.
If the ground is truly frozen, you cant put enough weight on it to make it dig. I have seen large trackhoes that couldn't dig in frozen ground. It is about as hard a concrete when hard frozen.
If the ground is truly frozen, you cant put enough weight on it to make it dig. I have seen large trackhoes that couldn't dig in frozen ground. It is about as hard a concrete when hard frozen.
Citydude
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I put three 55# suitcase weights on my box blade and ripped out a rock ledge on my road. I've never tried it on frozen ground though.
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Frozen ground aint that bad....neighbor uses his D9 Cat with a single rear ripper to tear right through it.
Seriously though, 4" of frozen dirt is a tough one. Maybe a ton on the box blade and 200 HP tractor?
Seriously though, 4" of frozen dirt is a tough one. Maybe a ton on the box blade and 200 HP tractor?
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Box Blade scarifiers are broad and generally angled at 45 degrees. This combination transfers a lot of stress to the Box Blade and to your tractor's Three Point Hitch.
Implements meant to rip ground generally have parabolic shaped tines, orienting the part of the tine leading the implement through ground parallel to the ground surface. Much less draft force resistance.
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CMV
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IF you need to add a lot weight just to get the teeth to penetrate, won't they just anchor the tractor once they do?
I'd use fewer teeth vs extra weight or start shallow & multiple passes from different angles dropping the teeth a notch lower doing it in layers.
No idea what your root & rock situation is, but if you have really good traction in a spot and don't get anchored, it's easy to break the shovels on the teeth fully extended. All mine are chipped/sheared at various angles from that. Not the end of the world, but something to watch for.
I'd use fewer teeth vs extra weight or start shallow & multiple passes from different angles dropping the teeth a notch lower doing it in layers.
No idea what your root & rock situation is, but if you have really good traction in a spot and don't get anchored, it's easy to break the shovels on the teeth fully extended. All mine are chipped/sheared at various angles from that. Not the end of the world, but something to watch for.
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More than likely you will end up breaking stuff, most equipment like that can not take the added stress from the extra weight and forces that it will apply, because they are not built heavy enough to start with.
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If those are current pics, then you live in the southern half of Michigan like I do. The ground *just* froze like, what, 4 days ago? You sure it's 4" thick frost already?
Did you even try it yet?
Wait till spring is a good answer, regardless. But I have another question - why? Why ruin that nice grassy trail? you must have a cool project in mind and are just too eager to wait, huh?
Did you even try it yet?
Wait till spring is a good answer, regardless. But I have another question - why? Why ruin that nice grassy trail? you must have a cool project in mind and are just too eager to wait, huh?
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Yes I am in south east Michigan. I have been driving steel T post by hand since Sunday and have about another 50 at least to do.
I am getting in to the brush area now it is a mix but mostly Autum Olive, easy on most to raise the bucket half way and push them over part way then back off and get the roots.
Near the road done in Oct before the survey.
Survey last Wednesday has me to the right of this by about 10'.
I was pushing over some small bushes this morning and the bucket was digging in so may the frost isn't all that deep yet.
Need to do some thing before Sunday as they are perdicting a high of 17F.
By the way thank you every one who replied.
I took more pictures this morning. I am wanting to smooth out that grassy strip plant it to a food plot for a bit then have a trail I can run the Bouta down and not shake my teeth out.
Al
I am getting in to the brush area now it is a mix but mostly Autum Olive, easy on most to raise the bucket half way and push them over part way then back off and get the roots.
Near the road done in Oct before the survey.
Survey last Wednesday has me to the right of this by about 10'.
I was pushing over some small bushes this morning and the bucket was digging in so may the frost isn't all that deep yet.
Need to do some thing before Sunday as they are perdicting a high of 17F.
By the way thank you every one who replied.
I took more pictures this morning. I am wanting to smooth out that grassy strip plant it to a food plot for a bit then have a trail I can run the Bouta down and not shake my teeth out.
Al