How to reboot without battery disconnect

Spudgunner · Jan 2, 2009

What now? My TC died today in the middle of a job. It appeared to be an electrical "glitch" as everything was running well and in an instant all the dash lights came on and then the whole thing died. Oddly enough, the Parking Light indicator and the Boom Lock Light remained lit and would not go off.

I figured I'd disconnect the battery to reboot the computer(s) on this thing but could not get to the battery because I couldn't raise the box. (This is a real PIA/design flaw on the TC.) Anyway, according to the BC tech, the way to reboot was to open both fuse boxes in the operator's footwell and pull all relays and fuses that have either a computer or lightning icon. The icons are found on a decal inside the fuse box covers. Then wait 15 minutes and reinstall the fuses/relays.

Everything came back like nothing unusual had ever happened and I finished the job.

Details: I have a "D" model. The fuse box directory under the seat in the footwell has one fuse only to remove. It's fuse #1. Within the other fusebox near your right knee, you'll need to pull one relay and 3 or 4 fuses. Again, the key to know which components to pull can be found on the decal inside the fuse box cover.

timm9 · Jan 3, 2009

Spudgunner,

Thank you for the post! Both of my TC's are "B" series so the battery is located in it's own compartment with access via it's own door. Did the Tech give you any explaination as to the cause/reason?

I may or may not have mentioned this previously. Those of you running Blowers should check for wear/rubbing on the electrical line connecting the 7 pin to the blower in two locations. 1) At the corner of the quick attach plate where the hydraulic and electrical connections "turn the corner" and run to the connector on the boom. 2) on the TC side where the electrical line runs up and bends back down near the front skid plate. We lost the ability to control the rotation and elevation of the shute on one TC from the rubbing getting to the wires on both these locations.

DEWFPO · Jan 3, 2009

Spudgunner said:
I figured I'd disconnect the battery to reboot the computer(s) on this thing but could not get to the battery because I couldn't raise the box. (This is a real PIA/design flaw on the TC.) Anyway, according to the BC tech, the way to reboot was to open both fuse boxes in the operator's footwell and pull all relays and fuses that have either a computer or lightning icon. The icons are found on a decal inside the fuse box covers. Then wait 15 minutes and reinstall the fuses/relays.

Thanks for this info. I have printed it and put it in the Toolcat.

On a side note (re : the battery access design flaw), I thought I'd post this in case it helps someone in the future.

The 'official' procedure for jumpstarting a D series Toolcat.

DEWFPO

Spudgunner · Jan 3, 2009

timm9 said:
Spudgunner,

Thank you for the post! Both of my TC's are "B" series so the battery is located in it's own compartment with access via it's own door. Did the Tech give you any explaination as to the cause/reason?
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There were no diagnostic codes "thrown"...and no he didn't have a specific cause but he was thinking a short and was pretty much going ballistic over the latest Safety Recall/Bulletin that has been mentioned recently in another thread.

Update: I've been using the TC this morning and it has been just fine. Maybe this thing runs an embedded version of Windows and it just needs to be rebooted every once in a while "just 'cuz". Just kidding, but the thought did run through my mind....

timm9 · Jan 3, 2009

Spudgunner,

I think you are on to something there!

Maybe the TC's are acutally running Microsoft Windows Vista... LOL!

All it needs is a weekly or bi-weekly hard restart!!!

Hope your back up and running! You should see a break in the weather as we have clear skys! Very small storm possible for Monday but I would not be shocked it it petered out before it gets here. Time for grease, rebuild chains, power washing, minor repairs, and some well deserved rest! I'm trying to order and install new cutting edges for the Blowers before the next storm. I have called 8 dealers in the western states and no one seems to stock them. Keep being told they will have to ship out of Chicago...