Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full?

   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #1  

Bill_BX23

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Kubota BX23 (2005)
OK, just performed my 50 hours service. But I forgot to clean the strainer. Can I pull the strainer without draining all the oil? Or am I going to have to drain the system again?

Also looks like I'm going to have remove the left rear tire of my BX23 to get to the strainer, is that correct?

Thanks

Bill.
 
   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #2  
I would just ignore it till the next service interval. To remove the strainer, you will need to drain the entire system again, and if you reuse the fluid, you are taking a greater chance of introducing contaminants to the system. The chips that are on the strainer aren't going any where and I doubt that there are enough of them to cause a blockage. I had a discussion with the service manage of a local heavy equipment dealership and was telling him about the 50 hour service recommended by Kubota. His was response was that he felt that it was more of a gimmick to get another service invoice for the dealer than an actual need. His thought was that changing the spin on filter at 50 or 100 hours would be all that was necessary for normal use maintenance. His comment about the hour frequency was that if heavy equipment owners had to adhere to a schedule like Kubota has, they would be in for service every couple of weeks, since many of the machines work 8 hour days 5 days a week. He also said that there should be no contamination of the hydraulic system since it is a closed system, and unlike an engine, has no pollutants introduced into it. His opinion was that the hydraulic fluid could be changed at 1 year or 300 hours for the first time. I am not saying that he is correct or wrong, just showing that there are other opinions out there. Deciding to follow the manufacturers suggest drain and refill recommendations is a personal matter. Everyone should do what they feel is best for themselves and not be mislead by others opinions to the contrary. Personally, I believe that how a tractor is used in those 50, 100, or 300 hours is more important that an arbitrary schedule. It is like a car used for stop and go city driving vs. a car that is driven long distances on the highway. This is more important in determining oil drain intervals. Think about the transmission fluid in your car.... do you change that based on hours of operation, or by mileage? How many miles do you drive in 50 hours, or for that matter, 300 hours???? I don't believe in abusing a machine, but I also believe that it is important to know the difference between a manufacturers suggest intervals and what is reasonable and practical based on your use.
 
   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #3  
When I cleaned my hydro screen during the end of my 50 hour service last week, there were a handful of silver colored metal fragements found and I had to look hard to see them. I wondered what all of the fuss was about, but had piece of mind knowing it was done. On a side note, my backhoe seems to move slower????

Sort of like having a home inspector who was referred by the realtor you bought your house from. Piece of mind but hardly anything found. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
 
   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #4  
I pulled mine at the 50 hour service and it was totally clean - nothing in it whatsoever. FWIW.
 
   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #5  
Yes, you will have to drain the HST again as the strainer is at the bottom of the HST's resevoir. Unless you want to go through that again, as has been said wait till the next service interval.

I just completed my 50 hr service today and I didn't find but a couple very small slivers in my strainer so I just blew it out (inside out), wiped it dry, reinspected it and reinstalled it.

As for the rest of the service, the filters were easy to R&R and except for the HST's hard to get at filler port, all went very well. Took the oppurtunity to pressure wash everything as well as under the MMM and she's looking pretty shiney & clean now too!

Volfandt
 
   / Hydraulic strainer - Can you remove while full? #6  
I'm not saying I did the same thing, but I 'might' have...
The strainer is about $13.50 - not much more than some filters. I bought a replacement and jacked the tractor up significantly on that side and removed the wheel.
In a well orchestrated move, I removed the old one and quickly installed the new one- total fluid loss was about 1.5 cups. I did not reuse it but topped off with fresh Super UDT.
I then took my time cleaning the old strainer with brake cleaning fluid and now it stands ready for the next maintenance cycle.

So...yes...it can be done without draining if you plan everything appropriately.
 

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