I don't like it but you better use Mahindra filters

[crbonline]

So I checked these forums to try and find replacement filters for my 2615 because Mahindra prices are freakin ridiculous. I mean $68 for an air filter...that's getting bent over when the napa equivalent is a 1/3 the cost. Well I went the cheaper route and am now paying over $1000 to get my engine repaired. The Napa filter didn't look exactly the same but folks on this forums said it'd work...WRONG. There is a dust trail down my intake to my rear cylinder which is now fried...new piston/rings, hone the cylinder, etc. All because Mahindra specifically makes filters so only theirs works with the tractor and then bends you over the table when you go to buy one. Thanks Mahindra...I guess the chinese manufacturing method has caught on in India. Sell it cheap and then screw people on the parts to fix it when it breaks. Besides this BS, I really like the 2615.

 

[kootch88]

So I checked these forums to try and find replacement filters for my 2615 because Mahindra prices are freakin ridiculous. I mean $68 for an air filter...that's getting bent over when the napa equivalent is a 1/3 the cost. Well I went the cheaper route and am now paying over $1000 to get my engine repaired. The Napa filter didn't look exactly the same but folks on this forums said it'd work...WRONG. There is a dust trail down my intake to my rear cylinder which is now fried...new piston/rings, hone the cylinder, etc. All because Mahindra specifically makes filters so only theirs works with the tractor and then bends you over the table when you go to buy one. Thanks Mahindra...I guess the chinese manufacturing method has caught on in India. Sell it cheap and then screw people on the parts to fix it when it breaks. Besides this BS, I really like the 2615.

Isn't this tractor equipped with a 3 cylinder, 26 hp Mitsubishi engine, which is Japanese made with a Indian made chassis and US made wheels, tires, Loader and any other attachments?

 

[crbonline]

Isn't this tractor equipped with a 3 cylinder, 26 hp Mitsubishi engine, which is Japanese made with a Indian made chassis and US made wheels, tires, Loader and any other attachments?

I've heard a 100 different iterations of where these things come from...Japan, India, etc. My understanding is Mahindra is an India based company that may source some materials from other places. Hope that answers your questions. Regardless of where the company is headquartered or where it sources materials, the compliant is still the same...and considering I have a Chinese made backhoe that required me to pay my local hydraulic specialist to custom build fittings when some of mine broke because it was still significantly cheaper than buying the replacement parts from the manufacturer...let's just say I'm pretty sure it is by design and not accident. I think that's how drug dealers work, "this one is free but the next one I'm gonna have to charge you."

 

[kootch88]

I've heard a 100 different iterations of where these things come from...Japan, India, etc. My understanding is Mahindra is an India based company that may source some materials from other places. Hope that answers your questions. Regardless of where the company is headquartered or where it sources materials, the compliant is still the same...and considering I have a Chinese made backhoe that required me to pay my local hydraulic specialist to custom build fittings when some of mine broke because it was still significantly cheaper than buying the replacement parts from the manufacturer...let's just say I'm pretty sure it is by design and not accident. I think that's how drug dealers work, "this one is free but the next one I'm gonna have to charge you."

I agree it absolutely stinks to be bent over the barrel and speared, but it is up to the aftermarket manufacturers to make a LKQ part, not Mahindra , LS, IH, JD or Kubota to ensure there are aftermarket parts. Where something is manufactured has pretty much nothing to do with availability of aftermarket parts. I am betting it has everything to do with demand.

 

[crbonline]

I agree it absolutely stinks to be bent over the barrel and speared, but it is up to the aftermarket manufacturers to make a LKQ part, not Mahindra , LS, IH, JD or Kubota to ensure there are aftermarket parts. Where something is manufactured has pretty much nothing to do with availability of aftermarket parts. I am betting it has everything to do with demand.

I hear ya...but I find it interesting that I've never had this issue with any other piece of equipment I've owned...there are the OEM parts and the non-OEM parts and they have always been 100% interchangeable. I've never had to go to the Chevy dealership to get an over priced air filter (although they'd like me to). I would also say that Mahindra has a lot invested in making sure their customers are happy; if I were a Mahindra exec, I would ensure anybody selling OEM equivalent parts adhere to some quality standards...I wouldn't trust that everyone is working my my best interest...chances are the non-OEM manufacturers said "good enough" and called it a day but in reality its Mahindra that ends up with the black eye.

 

[kootch88]

I hear ya...but I find it interesting that I've never had this issue with any other piece of equipment I've owned...there are the OEM parts and the non-OEM parts and they have always been 100% interchangeable. I've never had to go to the Chevy dealership to get an over priced air filter (although they'd like me to). I would also say that Mahindra has a lot invested in making sure their customers are happy; if I were a Mahindra exec, I would ensure anybody selling OEM equivalent parts adhere to some quality standards...I wouldn't trust that everyone is working my my best interest...chances are the non-OEM manufacturers said "good enough" and called it a day but in reality its Mahindra that ends up with the black eye.

I'm in the same fix you are in since I have a Mahindra, but how can Mahindra limit or require LKQ parts quaility from third parties? You said earlier this was akin to drug dealer methods of marketing, more or less, and my point in all of this is Mahindra, Chevy nor anyone else has the power to control after market parts, nor do I want them to because that would be no different than the original manufacturer selling the parts themselves, thus killing any capitalism/competition in the parts market. All a third party has to do is test the item, measure the specs and size, and crank them out.

Every time we have to buy low demand or no demand items we pay a premium, that is just a scale of demand and manufacturing.

 

[crbonline]

I'm in the same fix you are in since I have a Mahindra, but how can Mahindra limit or require LKQ parts quaility from third parties? You said earlier this was akin to drug dealer methods of marketing, more or less, and my point in all of this is Mahindra, Chevy nor anyone else has the power to control after market parts, nor do I want them to because that would be no different than the original manufacturer selling the parts themselves, thus killing any capitalism/competition in the parts market. All a third party has to do is test the item, measure the specs and size, and crank them out.

Every time we have to buy low demand or no demand items we pay a premium, that is just a scale of demand and manufacturing.

Dude I'm not really up for a debate on macro economics and global supply chain management. All I wanted to do with this thread is to caution folks when buying replacement parts (and vent a little). I did my homework and it turns out I got some bad info. My two cents...pay the additional price, let mahindra bend you over, and get the OEM parts. Oh and by the way, Mahindra has recently stated they are the worlds largest suppliers of tractors. If that is true, does the supply/demand theory really hold up?

 

[kootch88]

Dude I'm not really up for a debate on macro economics and global supply chain management. All I wanted to do with this thread is to caution folks when buying replacement parts (and vent a little). I did my homework and it turns out I got some bad info. My two cents...pay the additional price, let mahindra bend you over, and get the OEM parts. Oh and by the way, Mahindra has recently stated they are the worlds largest suppliers of tractors. If that is true, does the supply/demand theory really hold up?

I got a quote to day for having a full service of $230 bucks, which, same as you sent me into shock, so as far as prices, you are preaching to the choir on that account.

As far as the rest, regardless of how large their manufacturing base, they still have no control over aftermarket parts, unless there is a conspiracy I am not aware of in the tractor industry.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Any chance that you shopped around at different Mahindra dealers, either in person or on the net? There can be as much as double the price charged for filters from one dealer to the next. I have seen it first hand. For my 7520 it is cheaper to get the OEM filters from my dealer 650 miles away than it is any aftermarket filters, and the aftermarket guys did not even have a listing for all of the filters required for my tractor.

The 2615 is a Mitsubishi tractor, built by Mitsubishi in Japan for Mahindra USA and is now a 16 series machine.

 

[Cpjlube]

No offense to the OP but if it looked "different" I would be skeptical. I have used aftermarket parts almost exclusively when given the opportunity and have seen some situations where my gut tells me this isn't the right part, no matter what anybody else says. Unless the person telling me is willing to step up if there is a problem, dont use the part.

To the OP

If NAPA sold you a part that listed your machine as an application, I would start there. Napa doesn't build filters, they have companies build them. NAPA will be very interested to know if one of their filters was manufactured incorrectly. True, the problem doesn't lay with Mahindra but I would be sure to contact NAPA if they listed a part that failed.

Good luck

Chuck