Tires Industrial Tires on a 1500d?

[JAY34]

I've been thinking of putting different tires on my 1500d. The rice tires are nice in the dirt, but not nice on a soft yard with grade. I was thinking of turf tires, other discussions suggest turfs slip too much on soft or wet grass causing more damage. My yard, approx 400 feet deep, has about 35' of drop from the front to the back. Clay under about 3" of topsoil, so the water stays on the top.

Anyway.. i was thinking industrial tires.. Has anyone put these on before?

I have 5-14 on the front
4" rim, 23.8 dia. 72" circumference.

Carlisle makes a "TRAC CHIEF"
5.70-12 - 4" rim, 22.4 dia ??circumference (not posted)

1.4" in dia difference. Souldn't make circumference off too much. ( but what is too much?)

8.3/8-22 rice rears
7" rim, 37.5 dia. 113" circumference

Firestone makes a "all traction utility"
9" rim, 38.8 dia, 117" circumference.

Would the 9" tire fit on the 7" rim?
Would the small (i'm thinking) size difference hurt the drive train in 4WD. 4WD on grass/dirt would allow some slipage.

The thought of the front tires rubbing while turning crossed my mind, the tires seem so close I wouldn't think it would be an issue.

Any thoughts/comments/options would be appreciated.

Jay

 

[jdmar]

I have changed to turfs on my 1500 so I may be able to help a bit. Mine is 2WD so much easer though. I have some suggestions and some questions

Start by measuring your actual current rolling circumference front and rear. Mark your tires then drive on a firm level (concrete or asphault) surface in 2wd (not 4wd since that will induce slip) for about 10 revolutions then divide that distance in inches by 10 (or however many revolutions you did) to get an accurate number. Do this several times in both directions for front and rears to get an accurate average. Then calculate your RATIO between frpnt and rears. Then you can shop for the right tires with the right ratio.

How did you measure/calculate your rolling circumferences for the tires listed? Keep in mind that the actual rolling circumference may not be the same as what you calculate using tire diameter because of tire flattening under load. Most manufacturers will tell you the design rolling circumferance.

The Firestone "all traction utility" 9" rim, 38.8 dia, 117" circumference tire you mention I believe is actually for a 20" rim not your 22" rim. That may be a great industrial tire if you also want to change rims. Firestone does make a 9.5 x 22 turf tire that will fit a 22" rim well (although design for 8" wide rim it will fit yours). It is 9.5" wide with a 39.2 diameter and a 117" rolling circumference. See the following link for details
Firestone Turf Details

The Carlise tire you mention looks like it is for a 12" rim not your 14" front rim. They likely do have one that would work though...or I may have a 12" rim 4" wide here off my Yanmar front (the 2wd had 12" fronts while I believe yours has 14" fronts)

Rubbing should not be a problem unless your new tires are a fair mount wider that the old.

 

[jdmar]

OK, on to more stuff. Now I have some wilder options.

1) Have new rims made to fit your tractor and the tire you want. Rears will likely be about $130-150 a piece....ouch.

2) find premade rims that fit the tires you want (.e. 20" rims-a common size) and have adapters made to fit those rims to your tractor's bolt pattern...this is what I did. For what I meant by adapters go to the followings link and look at the pictures I posted near the end.
Tire and rim change thread

I hope some of this helped you. I did a lot of research on this and since so many here have helped me so much I had to share some of this with you. I do have some contacts for rims and adaptors if needed....below is a guy who can make the adapters for about $65 a piece. A friend made mine but this guy seemed to be a pro when I talked with him.
Fred@wheeladapter.com <Fred@wheeladapter.com>

Good luck and shoot back with further questions if needed.

peter

 

[kayssupply]

There was a set of take offs from a John Deere on Ebay the other day. I don't remember if they were turfs or industrials but the price was right if only for the rims. I put industrials on a Hinomoto. The fronts wouldn't clear a 12" rim but the 23x8.5x14 industrial from Titan was the right size. The rears used another Titan tire . Hey wheel made my rims. I was just running the thought of doing the swap on my Iseki but after the rain quit I figured out that it actually mows better with the rice tire. They don't flatten out the grass before you pull a mower over it. I just have to remember to take wide turns and the yard stays nice.