Interesting thing my dealer told me.

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gphil12873

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He basically told me this T4 stuff is much to blame to over seas than our own country. He said they are pushing it more so over there that they are here. It was interesting to hear cause everyone is bashing our own EPA and goverenment. He said if companys want to sell tractors internationally they would have to meet their guide lines. Just said everyone on getting on a even playing field. He said we gonna have to get use to it. Its here and nothing can be done.
 
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Very interesting I am just glad I have 2 tractors without it .
 
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I have a friend who is an engineer for Mack Truck powertrain. He says US EPA is the most stringent, followed by the European Union, then the rest of world.
 
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Don't know about our EPA but over here we have ROHS which is strict but over there they have R.E.A.C.H. which entirely bands many chemicals and substances.
 
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Don't know about our EPA but over here we have ROHS which is strict but over there they have R.E.A.C.H. which entirely bands many chemicals and substances.
In my business, European REACH compliance is most strict and causing us to make changes in our operations and processes. But it is coming this way (USA).
 
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In my business, European REACH compliance is most strict and causing us to make changes in our operations and processes. But it is coming this way (USA).

Yup, same here. I hear California first then the rest of the country.
 
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I don't think your dealer knows what he's talking about. All of the emissions standards we're talking about now are the result of the Clean Air Act in 1990....yes, this is nearly 25 years in the making. I don't think the EPA really cared what the rest of the world was thinking back then, or now.
 
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I cant say where it coming from. But to say who care what who is doing...I wouldnt say that tho. Who knows what really who is doing. Im sure there is lots that this world, countries, government...states.. is doing that we have no clue of. I don't really trust anyones word on nothing. But...its here..have to live with it. I think it was just interesting that its a world wide thing than just here.
 
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remember catalytic converters? Started here - mandated worldwide (extremely few exceptions, as usual). More MPG out of everything with a combustion engine is predominantly driven by the US. Really makes no difference who is starting the push for "greener pastures and cleaner air and on and on". It affects all countries in all the world
 
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Cleaner air and better fuel economy is European and Japanese as well as USA with California leading the USA because of their worse than rest of USA smog problems. 15 years ago when I lived in a suburb of Paris I got a sticker for my car due to it being a low emissions vehicle. That allowed me to drive in the city on pollution alert days when most drivers were banned. USA mileage requirements are pathetic when compared to places like Western Europe and Japan. Japan's emissions regulations require using equipment that meets the latest emissions spec when working on a MOC or MOT job site. MOC and MOT applies to virtually all infrastructure jobs. A major highway construction job is taking place near my home. Out of about 100 pieces of major equipment, I spotted only 2 machines, a medium wheel loader and a small dozer, that would be allowed on the job if it was in Japan. In order to meet fuel economy requirements the majority of automobiles in many European countries are diesel. Soot has been an ongoing problem boating their buildings resulting in deterioration so they are cleaning things up. Germany looks like wind power central. France on the other hand has nuclear power plants everywhere getting at least 80% of their electricity from nuclear. Italy is big on natural gas. Most of my Italian friends have their cars converted to run on CNG with a small fuel tank for gasoline since CNG is not routinely available in all European countries. Although the emissions standards are stated in different ways in Japan, the USA, and in the EU, the engines in most of the off highway classes will meet all 3 standards. So having been at the forefront in meeting the standards for my company which sells everywhere in the world, I had to work with only 1 version and one timetable from Tier 1 through Tier 4 interim when I retired (EU Stage 1 through Stage 3B). Europe was the easiest to implement because they have very good fuel. Japan has always had low lubricity fuel so Japanese fuel injection systems have been the most reliable. USA fuel varies in quality. I could analyze warranty by dealer, state and region. That generated some interesting arguments. Engineering - tell those customers in the Southeastern USA their fuel is bad, buy better fuel, deny warranty. Product Support - customers are our lifeline so develop a filtration system that will clean up their cruddy fuel. I turned coward in my old age so when the opportunity came to retire early, I bailed out. So if you think the USA is the country that thought of cleaning up the atmosphere and the others just followed along, you haven't left the USA except maybe to go yo Mexico.
 

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