Is your tractor an ATV?

[Henro]

In another thread here, BCZoom mentioned that in PA, the law is that every ATV, even if it resides and is used on private property, and never leaves that property, is by law required to have a license plate on it.

Does this make any sense? I was going to post the following message in the other thread, but decided start a new thread because the original thread title does not relate to this subject.

Comments/reactions anyone?

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Brian,

(or anyone, just thinking out loud here really... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )

Does that Kubota ATV you have also need a registration plate here in PA? I guess we would call it a UV (utility vehicle) so maybe a plate is not required.

How does one determine if he has an ATV or not? Really curious about this. Handle bars and 4 wheels = ATV? As compared to steering wheel and 4 wheels = something else, but not an ATV? Or is it motorcycle type seat VS bench seat?

I don't have one, don't want or need one, so it does not really matter to me personally. But laws like this stink in my opinion...

What if you do have an ATV and the engine is not in it? Still need a plate because it is parked on your own land, and you might coast it down a hill?

My (and every other tax payer here) tax money is being used to manufacture license plates to be put on things that have no need to have them on them. Kind of irks me big time to hear this.

What's coming next? Anyone want to guess?

One can have a motorcycle on his land without a plate on it right? How do these two things equate? Doesn't make sense to me.

Wonder when, if ever, someone will get the first fine for having an ATV on his own property without that license plate?

I suppose there is a definition of what an ATV is somewhere...

Found it. PA ATV is defined here...

Click here to view PDF document

By PA's definition, if it is a "motorized off-highway vehicle which travels on 3 or more inflatable tires" it is an ATV.

Hummm...both my tractors, and my old garden tractor, and the even older dead-with-a-blown-engine garden tractor all have three or more inflatable wheels and are off road vehicles...

Maybe for laughs I should try to get a plate on the old sears garden tractor just to see what happens... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

On second thought, I don't think so... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[johndeere2210]

Maybe for laughs I should try to get a plate on the old sears garden tractor just to see what happens...


Henro, please don't kick a sleeping dog!!

 

[Bob_Skurka]

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Maybe for laughs I should try to get a plate on the old sears garden tractor just to see what happens... </font>

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Henro, please don't kick a sleeping dog!!
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I dunno, seems to me that it is better for all of us if Henro kicks that dog in HIS state and lets us know what happens. Certainly I'd prefer nobody come to my state and do that!/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[DUMBDOG]

Not sure, but thinking that we might be missing the point in have all of the atv's registered, it might not be just to have the money from the registration which is used for whatever but the collection of the sales tax on the transaction which in a state like yours could add up to be big bucks for the coffers of the state. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[PineRidge]

<font color="blue"> In another thread here, BCZoom mentioned that in PA, the law is that every ATV, even if it resides and is used on private property, and never leaves that property, is by law required to have a license plate on it.
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As I understand it here in Ohio if you have a car on your private property it also must be tagged. They don't care if you bought it to part out or even if it doesn't or can't run they still want a tag on it. Good thing junk yards are exempt. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[hobbyfarm]

Howdy Henro,
I don't get it, does the state just need more taxes or what?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

 

[jinman]

Bill, I believe many things meet the ATV definition, but then you need to go through the list of vehicles that are exempt. For example, tractors and utility vehicles in Texas can be exempted as farm vehicles. It's not enough to know the general definition, you also have to check if a specific vehicle has an exemption for a specific declared use.

...I think. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[eee]

As I understand it here in Ohio if you have a car on your private property it also must be tagged. They don't care if you bought it to part out or even if it doesn't or can't run they still want a tag on it.

Are you sure about that ? I mean really sure about that ??? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[PineRidge]

I guess it would be easy enough to check out. Just call your local police and say, "Hey I live at (your address) and I have this car sitting on my property with no plates. Is that a problem for you all?"

Then see if they send a cruiser over to your home. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Please don't be using my home address either. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[beenthere]

Henro

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( How does one determine if he has an ATV or not? Really curious about this. Handle bars and 4 wheels = ATV? As compared to steering wheel and 4 wheels = something else, but not an ATV? Or is it motorcycle type seat VS bench seat? )</font>
I've heard of the seat being a 'divider' between license (street use) and no license (off-the-street use) around here. A gator-type vehicle (utility?) with bench seats couldn't be on the streets, but an ATV (if registered) could be, and it was the seat that was the classifier.