JD 2210 No Start, No Click

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JD 2210
Hello, I have a JD 2210 Compact Tractor that was running fine one moment, and than minutes later would not start. Here are the symptoms:
1) No start with PTO not engaged, transmission in neutral, while sitting in the seat.
2) No click with ignition in "on" and "start" positions. The starter does not engage.
3) Very dim oil pressure dash light when the ignition is in the "on" position.
4) No battery dash light when the ignition is in the "on" position.
5) When the ignition is in the "start" position the dim oil pressure lights dims more, and the fuel gauge drops lower.
6) Headlights, tail lights and turn signals do not work.

I've checked the following:
a) Battery voltage ~12.7 terminal-to-terminal, cable-to-cable, negative terminal-to-positive cable, etc. at the battery.
b) Voltage at the starter connection is 12.7 volts.
c) The ground cable was torqued all the way, and still loose, so I swapped out the ground cable.
d) Cleaned the battery terminals.
e) Tested the seat safety switch, and it passed.
f) Checked the fuses (5A, 10A, 10A, 15A), and all passed. I removed and cleaned the fuses to make sure dirt did not compromise the connection. All good!

Any suggestions on what to check? For grins and giggles I was going to change the positive power cable since the battery is good, but tractor does not appear to acknowledge this. It's a 19 year old wanna be tractor that lives outside, so any new parts can't hurt.

I don't have an accurate schematic for the electrical system, and surprisingly posts on the Internet are limited for this old tractor. Does anyone have recommendations on how to confirm the ignition switch, voltage regulator, starter, solenoid, etc. are working properly?

Thank you in advance for your time and expertise in helping me get the tractor running again so I can cut down the field and black berry bushes which I can almost see them GROW realtime!
 
   / JD 2210 No Start, No Click #2  
Any luck jumping just to rule out battery?
 
   / JD 2210 No Start, No Click #3  
I had pretty much the same symptoms as you describe on my JD2305. It was the starter solenoid.
But…. Mine had been in a flood from hurricane so I was pretty sure where to look. I was able to tap on solenoid while turning key and occasionally get it to engage. Once off and old apart, found brushes all corroded up. Might try tapping it to see.
I haven’t ran into it, but on the 2305 there is a fuel solenoid behind the dash that apparently will give the same symptoms.
Best of luck
 
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Any luck jumping just to rule out battery?
I had the same thought last night. I can't get a vehicle down to where the tractor is, so I put a battery charger on it overnight. I'll give it a try later today. Thanks for the input!
 
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I had the same thought last night. I can't get a vehicle down to where the tractor is, so I put a battery charger on it overnight. I'll give it a try later today. Thanks for the input!

Welcome. Let me add one more thing. I obviously don’t know if 2210 is the same. But on the 2305 ( 2010 year). I searched like crazy on how to get the starter off. Nothing on it. I had to pull my motor mounts, exhaust side pipe. Jack up the motor to get it off. Actually easy- but time consuming. I made a video and dropped it on YouTube for others searching. Might want to look on YouTube for that fuel solenoid symptom. Seen a couple on there about it and how to test. Been a few years, but I believe you can pull it out- if engine starts you know it’s bad.
 
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I had pretty much the same symptoms as you describe on my JD2305. It was the starter solenoid.
But…. Mine had been in a flood from hurricane so I was pretty sure where to look. I was able to tap on solenoid while turning key and occasionally get it to engage. Once off and old apart, found brushes all corroded up. Might try tapping it to see.
I haven’t ran into it, but on the 2305 there is a fuel solenoid behind the dash that apparently will give the same symptoms.
Best of luck
That's good feedback, thank you! I'll go to the tractor with a hammer in hand later today. My "wing span" may not be able to turn the key while tapping the solenoid, but I'll give it a try. I was thinking I could short the two terminals on the solenoid to see if the starter engages. If so, that would rule out a bad solenoid. I'll post what I find. Thanks for taking the time to reply, sorry to hear you were impacted by a hurricane, wow! Do you have a t-shirt that reads, "I survived X hurricane"? ;)
 
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Definitely a reach…. Yeah. Live near Orlando FL. Hurricane gat me a few years ago. What a mess. [emoji6] tractors under ’ of water, JD Gator golf cart. Class A mother home generator, chainsaws, weed eaters and more…. Learned real quick that you freeze the old oil n water, then pour oil off. Part store wouldn’t take old oil back quarter in it.
 
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Thanks to those who provided suggestions on things to try to resolve my problem. The tractor is RUNNING! I replaced the positive battery cable connector with an overnight shipment from Amazon that cost $9. The JD cable was 15x's the cost and would not arrive from Illinois for a week. It took 5 minutes to cut off the corroded cable-end and install the new connector.

The turning point was when I measured the resistance of the positive cable from the battery terminal to the starter lug. It measured 83 Ohms! For a minimum 50 amp draw, the resistance would need to be less than 1 Ohm. Bingo! My earlier mistake was measuring the voltage, forgetting that the multimeter requires minimal current.

I posted before and after pictures for future reference. Nothing "runs" like a Deere!
 

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Glad you figured it out and something minor.
 

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