flatheadlake
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Is the 47 bh a sub-frame mount? Does it matter? Is there any reason to upgrade to a 48 bh for an extra $1,000? Thanks for the help. What a great site.
Backhoe JD 47 Backhoe questions
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rockyridgefarm
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Is the 47 bh a sub-frame mount? Does it matter? Is there any reason to upgrade to a 48 bh for an extra $1,000? Thanks for the help. What a great site. )</font>
The 47 is NOT a subframe mount. It isn't a 3 point mount, either. Yes it does matter. A subframe can lower ground clearance and interfere with a mid mount mower. A 3 point mount can put too much stress on the tractor. Deere uses RockShaftAssist mounting to attach the 47 (also the 48, 448 and 49 hoes) The tractors were designed for this setup and don't require additional frame components and are rock solid. They go on or off in a jiffy and work wonderfully in place.
the 48 is a bit deeper digger, it also has more reach which can mean less moving the tractor or unload into a higher bed and it can fit the large chassis CUTs. (As far as I can tell the 47 is limited to the mid chassis.) The 48 is being replaced with the 448 which does not list the mid chassis as compatible. I guess there will be a 447 too.
Actually TBN is the GREATEST site!! Glad you found it!
The 47 is NOT a subframe mount. It isn't a 3 point mount, either. Yes it does matter. A subframe can lower ground clearance and interfere with a mid mount mower. A 3 point mount can put too much stress on the tractor. Deere uses RockShaftAssist mounting to attach the 47 (also the 48, 448 and 49 hoes) The tractors were designed for this setup and don't require additional frame components and are rock solid. They go on or off in a jiffy and work wonderfully in place.
the 48 is a bit deeper digger, it also has more reach which can mean less moving the tractor or unload into a higher bed and it can fit the large chassis CUTs. (As far as I can tell the 47 is limited to the mid chassis.) The 48 is being replaced with the 448 which does not list the mid chassis as compatible. I guess there will be a 447 too.
Actually TBN is the GREATEST site!! Glad you found it!
JayC
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The 48 is being replaced with the 448 which does not list the mid chassis as compatible. I guess there will be a 447 too. )</font>
Actually, if Deere comes out with the rumored 3000 Twenty series to replace the mid-size 4000 Tens, wouldn't it be best if Deere renamed the hoe like 338 or 337? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Actually, if Deere comes out with the rumored 3000 Twenty series to replace the mid-size 4000 Tens, wouldn't it be best if Deere renamed the hoe like 338 or 337? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
rockyridgefarm
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Hey, I can goof up once and a while can't I?!!
Good call!
Good call!
JC4HD
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RockyRigde says it all... both are great BH's and worth the extra bucks over Brand X especially nice is the super strong, simple and easy to work mounting system. The extra reach was important to me (move the tractor less) so I went for the 48.
I see your from Montana... my son lives in Whitefish!
I see your from Montana... my son lives in Whitefish!
rockyridgefarm
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My lines and foundations only have to be 2 feet deep. If I lived farther north, I would have got the 48. Now I would be looking at the 448. .
To cut down on time moving when trenching, we keep an operator on the tractor. But we have no shortage of willing operators!!!!!
To cut down on time moving when trenching, we keep an operator on the tractor. But we have no shortage of willing operators!!!!!
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flatheadlake
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Should a guy wait for the new 447 (or whatever it will be called)? JC4HD what's your son do in Whitefish, Polson is about 60 miles south.
rockyridgefarm
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<font color="green"> Should a guy wait for the new 447 (or whatever it will be called)? </font>
Well, it is only a guess that there WILL be a new hoe. But the current ones are GREAT. If you are leaning towards the 48, be sure and check out the 448. If a dealer has a 48 in stock, it might be a great buy...
What tractor do you have in mind for this?
Well, it is only a guess that there WILL be a new hoe. But the current ones are GREAT. If you are leaning towards the 48, be sure and check out the 448. If a dealer has a 48 in stock, it might be a great buy...
What tractor do you have in mind for this?
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flatheadlake
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A bran' spankin' New JD 4310 that I am about to order
rockyridgefarm
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Your options include the 47 and 48 (the 448 shows NOT to work with the Mids...) If you can swing it, get the 48, you will be probably digging deeper than I do...
Congrats on the 4310!!!!
Congrats on the 4310!!!!
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flatheadlake
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Ah but the hard question, is it worth $1,000 more? Could this be spent on another toy, I mean tool? Why does this have to be so hard. Also I have to wait a week for delivery once I place the order, ****. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
adegiulio
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I went through this same decision making process back in the spring. I went back and forth between the 47 and 48. Then I saw a post by CVHoss that made it totally clear what I should do. I got the 48 hoe, and I am happy I did. Not only is it stronger, but it looks bigger and meaner! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Here is the post from the spring...
Backhoe discussion
Hope this helps! Let us know what you decide....
Here is the post from the spring...
Backhoe discussion
Hope this helps! Let us know what you decide....
JC4HD
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I don't know anything about the new BH models so I really can't comment on them. All I know is I have never heard anyone wish they bought the smaller one but I have heard a few wish they bought the bigger one! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Only you can decide if it is worth the extra $$
Regarding my son in Whitefish... I sent you a private message.
Only you can decide if it is worth the extra $$
Regarding my son in Whitefish... I sent you a private message.
dltimmons
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I can't really tell you which one of the hoes you should buy, really depends on how deep you need to be able to dig. I will make you a proposition though,
Buy the 48, if for any reason you don't like it, I'll trade you my 47, and the amount you paid over the cost of a 47. I'll meet you half way.
I don't have any complaints about the 47, but could use a little more reach once in a while. The 47 was on my tractor when I bought it used (24hrs on it), and I didn't get a choice. If I had bought new, I would have gotten the 48.
Have fun with the new rig,
DT
Buy the 48, if for any reason you don't like it, I'll trade you my 47, and the amount you paid over the cost of a 47. I'll meet you half way.
I don't have any complaints about the 47, but could use a little more reach once in a while. The 47 was on my tractor when I bought it used (24hrs on it), and I didn't get a choice. If I had bought new, I would have gotten the 48.
Have fun with the new rig,
DT
