Oil & Fuel JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters

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dgr321

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Anyone have any thoughts regarding JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters (eg. Fram, etc) in terms of cost and quality? (I have a JD 4100). Thanks.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #2  
For quality and convenience, I like Hastings/Baldwin filters. Top drawer, made in USA.

However, some of the specialty trans filters are only available at the dealer. I don't believe it breaks the bank to use OEM filters and it helps keep your dealership alive, I guess. It just isn't the HUGE issue with me that seems to be with some folks.

Fram? Not too likely. :)
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #3  
Many of you know that I work at a NH dealership. Yesterday I needed 2 hydraulic filters for a Deere 4050 powershift RIGHT NOW. We do a bunch of business with the local Carquest and they give us great service. Our price (with whatever discount they extend to us) was $2 more than the over the counter price for the OEM filter from the Deere dealer we routinely buy parts from when necessary. I had my filters the same day, and I am happy. But I did do the price comparison and there was no savings in this instance in the aftermarket.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #4  
I'm one to stick with the factory filters. It's not like the price of the filters is excessively high...and, one doesn't need to change them too often, other then oil and that really depends on hours of operation.
I'd wager most of us change the filters annually, except for the hydraulic filter...which might be biannual.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #5  
I'm one to stick with the factory filters. It's not like the price of the filters is excessively high...and, one doesn't need to change them too often, other then oil and that really depends on hours of operation.
I'd wager most of us change the filters annually, except for the hydraulic filter...which might be biannual.

I think you'd most likely win that bet. Exactly what I do and have done for many years. John Deere states longer oil change intervals if Deere Plus 50-II and Deere filters are used. I still change once a year with 50 to 100 hrs use.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #6  
I toured a filter manufacturing plant several years ago. Many of the after-market filters are made along side and on the same lines as the original equipment and name brand filters. The guts of any filter are the filter media used and the check and bypass valves. Probably the most critical component is the filter media and the total surface area. Some after-market brands use the same quality and amount of media. I guess my point is if you find a filter that meets the requirements for your machine and it is cheaper...go for it.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #7  
I toured a filter manufacturing plant several years ago. Many of the after-market filters are made along side and on the same lines as the original equipment and name brand filters. The guts of any filter are the filter media used and the check and bypass valves. Probably the most critical component is the filter media and the total surface area. Some after-market brands use the same quality and amount of media. I guess my point is if you find a filter that meets the requirements for your machine and it is cheaper...go for it.

The problem is, one wouldn't know which filters meet the manufacturer's requirements (just because a filter may be advertised to fit a Deere 4300 (for example) doesn't mean it meets the requirements). Cross over charts specify fit, not filtering criteria.
Now, if a tractor manufacturer lists alternative filters...or even if your dealer recommends an aftermarket filter, one has some recourse.
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #8  
I am not a filter expert so I don't know about all filters but some list the micron size of the filter media on the packaging. Some filters may list the first pass and multi-pass filtering efficiencies as well. Certainly there is no real consistency in the information available to the consumer. It is, as always, caveat emptor (let the buyer beware).
 
   / JD Filter Pak vs after-market filters #9  
I am not a filter expert so I don't know about all filters but some list the micron size of the filter media on the packaging. Some filters may list the first pass and multi-pass filtering efficiencies as well. Certainly there is no real consistency in the information available to the consumer. It is, as always, caveat emptor (let the buyer beware).

And, by using the manufacturer's filters, all risk (other then an installation error) is on the manufacturer.
 
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