jinma 224 steering problems

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Tdog50

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Lost the steering on my tractor but only on the right side turn .It steers great to the left. If it was a bypassing cylinder would I not have lost the steering on both sides. I have the steering cylinder on the side and no pump or reservoir in the front meaning the steering pump takes its fluid from the back of the tractor.The fell,3pt work fine at full load. I am not familiar with this type of steering system so any help would be appreciated. I also forgot to mention there are no leaks anywhere in the steering system.


Tdog
 
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Tdog Where is the hydraulic cylinder for the steering located? SO when you turn it to the left fine, do you have trouble getting it back to center, or do you have trouble going to the right from center? IF you are having trouble going to the right from center, Is there a rubber boot over the cylinder rod? If so remove the rubber boot and check where the heim joint is screwed onto the rod end. This can actually unscrew itself back off the rod threads if the lock nut has become loose. What it looks like is you slowly start to have less and less available steering to one side as the rod end unscrews and the piston/rod dosn't have enough travel to push/pull the steering any farther in that direction. If not corrected eventually it will fall off. ALl this of course occurs under that rubber boot where you cannot see it...

If it turns fine to the left, but has problems turning back to center from the left and right of center after that, it may be an issue with the rotary vane pump at the bottom of the steering comumn. It also occurs that sometimes cylinder seals fail so that they leak easier one direction, at least initially. The way to determine which is which is with a mechanics stethescope. While someone turns the wheel in the good direction, listen with the mechanics stethescope on the steering cylinder hydraulic fittings(don't get crushed by the mechanism). You should be able to hear the woosh of fluid thru the fittings as the fluid moves to operate the cylinder. Then have them turn the steering in the weak direction. If you hear the same ammount of fluid flow on the fittings, but the cylinder is moving less, that fluid is most likley leaking past the piston seal in the cylinder. If you are not hearing the same flow, the fluid isn't reaching the cylinder so the rotary valve/vane pump at the bottom of the steering colunm is probably the issue...
 
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Thanks for the reply RonMar.Will try to find a someone with a stethoscope . Had removed the fittings off the cylinder last night to check for fluid flow, Had good flow in both direction both not sure if the pressure was the same.I have a pressure gauge but just need to find adapters to fit the fittings. Can the vane pump be re built ?

Tdog
 
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Thanks Tommy have ordered from you guys before and happy to have you guys to depend on. Living in Northern Ontario has its downfalls. Parts get boggled down at the border and took 4 weeks to get to my place last time. Not your fault I know but want to be 100% sure I order the right stuff right off the bat. The cylinder is on the left side along the engine .Not sure if you have the cylinder rebuild kit. It is an older model 224 built in 1997 if I remember correctly.

Tdog
 
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You should be able to get a mechanics stethescope at a local auto parts store or Harbor Freight tools for a few bucks. Once you get one, you will find you have all kinds of uses for it... I use mine all the time.
 
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If its that old there are not kits for that cylinder, we have replacement side mount cylinders now ( That we can get rebuild kits for) that you would have to get, you also have to replace the 2- fittings in the cylinder they are different sizes also.

Let me know what you want to do we will be glad to help.We have found if we ship USPS to Canada it only takes about 10- days, UPS or Fed Ex 2- weeks plus, if you need to call us in the next few days look on our website for a temp. phone number they are widening the road and have cut our phone line again, we do have a line working that we listed in red

Tommy
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If you purchase through Affordable Tractor Sales, the USPS delivery will be pretty quick, I have bought several things form Affordable.
I too can vouch that UPS and FedEx are not worth even thinking about for purchases outside of Canada - unless you like to get truly raped. I refuse to do business with any company that pushes FedEx or UPS - got burnt too often plus their lousy service.
 
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Thanks for the replies guys . Out of town shopping for implements. I'm Pretty sure I'm pretty sure I am the only jinma owner for 400 km around. Will order a cylinder and spare kit for sure but have funny feeling its deeper than that.

Tdog
 

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