John Deere 4310 Remote Hydraulics...

[harryball]

now that's an idea... I'm sure I can come up with something like that, best of both, thanks for the idea! Also, what I know about hydraulics comes from being so poor we had to fix our own tractors, bailers, loaders or anything else that broke. I'm sure no one else out there has that problem

Splitting large logs vertically is the best, but once the chunks are easy to pick up, 50 lbs or less, I prefer to run it horizontally. It has a log cradle so they just lay there and fall off each side once split. It's much easier to split a 6" diameter log in half on the horizontal than bending over and holding it in place vertically.

We have a stove not a fireplace so I tend to split everything much smaller so I can meter the load better. We use large logs overnight. If I throw too much wood mass in during the day I have to choke it off or the heat output is way too much most of the winter. If you are curious, we have a Lopi Liberty stove.

Again, thanks for the great idea!
Harry

 

[rockyridgefarm]

I have seen the Poweer Beyond used for operating a splitter many times. The splitter, like a backhoe would have its own control valve, and PB is the right connection.


For the hydro toplink, you will want the 3rd SCV. You already have the valve, you are just buying the plumbing and a control linkage.

 

[jd110]

Harry, yes you can return the oil from the splitter to the rockshaft. The only issue with this is the possibility of blowing seals out of your logsplitter valve. I am not sure what kind of splitter or style of valve, but some of these valves can stand the pressure and some can't. If you are only raising the splitter, there should not be a problem. What happens is when you raise the rockshaft, the pressure required to raise it backs up into the return hose from your splitter. If the splitter valve is designed to handle back pressure on the return side, there is no problem. You could check with the manufacturer of the valve to be sure. With a backhoe, they want the three point disabled so there is no unexpected movement if someone moves the rockshaft control by mistake. On the subject of a third selective control valve, That is absolutely what you need for your hydraulic top link. The power beyond has no control, the flow is there as soon as the engine is running. If you hook up a cylinder to it, the cylinder would extend all the way as soon as you start the engine and then the system would go in relief and overheat the oil in a short time. I don't know if your tiller has a control valve or not, but if it does not, the same goes there. The tiller would be running as soon as the engine is started. I hope this makes a little sense to you. If you could post some pictures, I might be able to be a little more specific. I understand your frustration. Too many salesmen don't really know their products and they guess at what you need. I always suggest talking to the service dept. if there are questions as to what is really needed. They usually have a better idea what it takes to make something work. Good Luck!

 

[harryball]

"I always suggest talking to the service dept."
uhh, what service department? LOL Just my bad luck I guess.

So, the 3rd valve has a lock open position for continuous flow?

The centerlink I have works on the PB kit, the lift is just dead. The centerlink is homemade, think of it as a mini log splitter with it's own valve. I'll need to make sure the valve can handle the same pressure as the hoses.

I think my best bet is simply to return to the 3PH for the log splitter. The pressure is unlikely to be high with such a light load.

I think the tiller is just a lost cause on the JD. I'll keep my NH, at least I can buy parts and get it serviced.

Thanks for all the feedback, the explanation on the back pressure in the return makes sense.

Harry

 

[BloomingtonMike]

So, the 3rd valve has a lock open position for continuous flow?


No Harry, there is a lever that is off at normal position. Flow one way forward, flow opposite way backward. You will have to pin it down with a strap of some kind.