To JimRB, I have the cylinders off, both cleaned up on outside, one cylinder seperated from tube. The lock ring was a bother but got it anyway. The other cylinder is still assembled due to stubborn lock ring. Can't get the sucker to rotate or move period. Its just stuck, put on wd40 last evening. Wanted to get both cylinders dissambled before reassembling. Rods on both appear in good shape. Just an update, appreciate your interest and any advice welcome. I do have cast iron component on rod. Thanks, malichi