paultavilla
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Purchasing X585 or X595 soon. Can anyone explain difference (besides the 1") between 47" snowTHROWER and 46" snowBLOWER? Whats best for deep/heavy snow?
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JDFANATIC
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paultavilla,
Several questions come to mind before we even consider the snow issues: why the X series? Is size a consideration? What will your mowing conditions be like -- area, slope, trees etc. Will you be doing any loader work? Do you intend to do any tilling, post-hole digging or other 3PH work? The X series are awesome machines, but often a CUT or sub-CUT offers more bang for the buck.
As for your snow handling question: the 46" is a snowthrower; single stage, that operates by forcing snow into its impeller and "throwing" it out. The 47" is a snowblower that uses two stages (two driven impellers) to "blow" the snow. Both have their advantages. The snowthrower probably moves a large volume of snow quicker. Having only one shear point, it probably is better with gravel. The snowblower has two shear points (on each revolving blade) and can be a problem with gravel. On the other hand, the two-stage is probably better in heavy-wet snow, although there is a good chance the single-stage would work just fine.
My personal experience is with the 46" snowthrower, and I have never seen a situation that it couldn't handle.
Give us some more specifics, and perhaps we'll be able to help more. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Several questions come to mind before we even consider the snow issues: why the X series? Is size a consideration? What will your mowing conditions be like -- area, slope, trees etc. Will you be doing any loader work? Do you intend to do any tilling, post-hole digging or other 3PH work? The X series are awesome machines, but often a CUT or sub-CUT offers more bang for the buck.
As for your snow handling question: the 46" is a snowthrower; single stage, that operates by forcing snow into its impeller and "throwing" it out. The 47" is a snowblower that uses two stages (two driven impellers) to "blow" the snow. Both have their advantages. The snowthrower probably moves a large volume of snow quicker. Having only one shear point, it probably is better with gravel. The snowblower has two shear points (on each revolving blade) and can be a problem with gravel. On the other hand, the two-stage is probably better in heavy-wet snow, although there is a good chance the single-stage would work just fine.
My personal experience is with the 46" snowthrower, and I have never seen a situation that it couldn't handle.
Give us some more specifics, and perhaps we'll be able to help more. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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paultavilla
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Thanks for your response. I have a low hours 345 which is more than I need for mowing, howerver I've moved to the mountains of NC and now need to move snow over a stone wall on large drive and definitely need 4WD for mowing as my 345 gets stuck on steep grade.
h20camper
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A little off of the question, but for the money you'll pay for a x5*5, you may want to look at the 2210. Same diesel motor as the x595 but I feel the motor is easier to service in the 2210. The 2210 comes standard with the rear PTO and 3pt hitch (another ~$1100 option on the x series machines). I had purchased a x485 and returned it to the JD dealer within two weeks (30 day promise from JD) and upgraded to the 2210. I love the thing.
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I would love to be able to use the 2210 but the wooded, hilly mountain property I have needs a tight turning radius and low center of gravity. Even the 585 sits up rather high for my steep property. But, I will now check out the specs on the 2210.
Maxfli
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Similar here, old 2WD tractor got stuck out in the back lot. I had a Zero turn, and an old Diesel. I wanted to get to one tractor that would do everything I could ever need. Took delivery of a 2210 with 54" MMM and loader 2 weeks ago, and so far I love it. The loader can be installed or removed in just a minute or 2, and the mowing is great. Turning radius is not as tight as the X595, but the 2210 sure is versatile, and I think in the long run will hold it value much better /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif.
h20camper
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The turning ratio was one of the reason I went with the x485 originally (based on the specs). But after actually using both on my property, I found that the spec'd difference wasn't really what is experienced in real use (when comparing both in two wheel drive mode). I'm sure both (x585 vs 2210) in 4wd mode would be similarly comparable.
44trxfun
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paultavilla, the "continuation" of this thread you started is a couple fairly recent ones compaing the X595 with the 2210. If you haven't used the "search" feature yet, you might give it a try. You'll find all kinds of good stuff!
The turning radius for the X585 is
INSIDE rear wheel 2wd 28 inches
The 2210 (according to the manual) MFWD Off (2wd?) is 88.6 in. which is measured OUTSIDE rear wheel.
So 88.6"-47.5" (outside tread width) is 41.1 inches
Therefore the best I can tell is that there is a difference in 2wd
but when I test drove a 2210 it seemed to turn as sharp as my 585.
Has anybody measured the uncut circle on a 2210?
INSIDE rear wheel 2wd 28 inches
The 2210 (according to the manual) MFWD Off (2wd?) is 88.6 in. which is measured OUTSIDE rear wheel.
So 88.6"-47.5" (outside tread width) is 41.1 inches
Therefore the best I can tell is that there is a difference in 2wd
but when I test drove a 2210 it seemed to turn as sharp as my 585.
Has anybody measured the uncut circle on a 2210?
