Jumping to Conclusions and the Taste of Crow

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webbmeister

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Location
Wauconda, Illinois
Tractor
New Holland TC25D
A few weeks ago, while pricing the 25D I had decided was "the one for me," I visited the dealer closest to what will be our new home. He gave me a quote that eventually turned out to be several thousand dollars above what eventually turned out to be the winning quote from a dealer in VA. In a previous post, I expressed distrust for this dealer, writing, essentially, that it would be difficult for me to take my tractor to him because I felt that he had tried to take advantage of me. Well, after I got that quote from VA, I called around to several dealers within marginally reasonable distance from the new home, and got very similar quotes to the one I got from my local dealer. When I told them about the price from VA, to a person, they said "buy it!"

Having read over and over on TBN that a quality dealer who is easy to work with is essential, not only for warranty work but for the years and years of service after the sale, I stewed over what to do. I remembered a post somewhere on TBN that described one of our members being in a similar situation. He went to his dealer, explained the situation, and why he couldn't spend such a significant amount extra for the same tractor. He went on to say that he then made an agreement with his dealer to purchase implements and service from him. In the end, he got the best of both worlds - a deal and a dealer.

Well, I went this morning to what will be my local dealer and did essentially the same thing. I looked him in the eye, told him I respected that he had told me that he had given me his bottom-line price, that I wasn't there to dicker, but that I was there to describe a problem and ask for his help. I showed him the VA quote, pointed out that it came to more than $3000 less than his, that I had not come to ask him to meet the price, and that I could not afford to spend that much extra for the same tractor.

You could have knocked me over with a feather. He reached for his books and said that he needed to see if he had made a mistake. After showing me his costs, it was clear that even with dealer considerations he could not meet the price. Then he said it! "I think it's best that you bought the tractor from the VA dealer, I would have too. Don't worry about having a local dealer to depend on - you are welcome here."

Well, guys, I spoke too harshly too soon about this dealer. I take it back, and I apologize. Another lesson learned.

Jim
 
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I looked at TC-25 myself,webbmeister,great machine ! Got a TC-18,it was in my price range. The dealers in my area were all within a few dollars of each other.The one I bought from is ten miles away! The service Dept. is first rate but the sales Dept. is another story.I was promised a manual for the MMM ,it was used [very little], NEVER got it. When my FEL arrived,after about two weeks, the salesman said he made a mistake on the purchase order of $700 and told him to hold it until I could make other arrangments! WELL he dropped that in a hurry! Salesmen are the same ...horses,used cars.whatever......I'll have to get the MMM manual myself, with lesson learned ! dass
 
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Ahhh yes! I know the taste of crow very well. /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif I've had several helpings of it right here on this forum. Good luck with your tractor and dealer.

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JimI
 
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webbmeister,I too looked at the 25,but alass, it was either the tc21d and FEL or the 25 well.I chose the tc21d sence it met my needs especially with the FEL.The tc21d's been great.It tallerates me well...Alot better than this laptop pc..../w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif...Sounds like things worked out well though.....But that darn Crow is a grissly, bony bird, ain't it.....???/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Laziness is the Father of invention.../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
Lil' Paul
Proud owner of TC21D
 
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Webmeister: It takes a truly big person to do what you did and even bigger to person to admit it. Your honest will pay huge dividends in the future with this dealer.

My question is how can an out of state dealer save so much money. Even if you trade off the transportation fees vs state/local taxes it, how can it be?

I soon hope to have our land closed on and with all good luck on my side be underway with our house plans in May. By September I will be in and hopefully just after that a new Baby (blue of course) in my garage.
 
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Michael:Thanks for the kind words. I think some dealers sell a *lot* more tractors, and they get incentives from the manufacturer, just like car dealers do. This tractor, as I understand it, was delivered to the dealer some time early this year and was one of a large number. He bought more than he could sell, and wound up paying interest as it sat there. I guess if this is correct, selling it at cost or somewhere near it was better for him than continuing to pay interest. Face it, with the weather the way it is, it ain't exactly "Boomer Season!")

It's great that you are getting ready to build your dream home. 12+ acres ... I'm jealous! I'm wondering, though, how is it that you'll get it built in 4 months? We're having one built too, starting in March, and we'll be lucky to get in by September 1. And that's with a frame and panel package that gets things under roof in one week.

Which Baby Blue are you aiming for?

Jim
 
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MDNY,
I also will be starting a new house in spring. I also hope to be in sometime sept. I got my 4.3 acres last year, and I cant whate to live there, and move out of the city. I am also in NY, what part of the state are you building in?
 
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Webmeister & S1120,

My wife and I have been working with our builder and his architect for a few months now and based on them being a smaller type semi-custom home builder they don't have tons of houses going at once. This I guess allows them to keep a tighter time line. But they have solid subs to work for them and I have added in some extra time for this. Their estimate is 4 months tops.

I live in the CNY area and right now we have no snow. a light dusting as it were. About 35 minutes away at my property I have more snow or at least it hasn't melted. Which is a good indicator that I will be cold and waiting for spring when I move next year.
 
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I am now in Schenectady NY. The new house will be about 45min southeast of here in Niverville NY. I am going the outher way, we get a good bit of snow in Schenectady, but not much at all at the new place.
 
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We just moved into our new house about two weeks ago. It was 3 months and 1 week from the day they broke ground until we closed. So they can put them up fast if they are committed and want to finish. Our builder was wanting to finish by the end of the year so he kept the subs lined up w/o much wasted time in between. Most other builders we talked to quoted us 6-8 months. I kept a close eye on the whole process to make sure no corners were cut to finish quickly, but it looked to me like everything was done top notch.

-Brad
 

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