K2 and diesel

[BurningBushFarm]

We noticed that the last K2 we bought was colored pink/red, the same as our off road diesel. ("What??")

Asked local garage and he said K2 is being phased out and people are using off road in their space heaters. And yes, they are coloring kerosene pin/re now.

Heating is not my problem ... I wanted to know if that meant we could put the kerosene in the tractor (Yanmar diesel YM2000) and he said yes. Said we might want to throw in some 30 weight oil to increase oiliness if we were worried.

What say ye? (We have several gallons of what we are now confused about whether it is kero or off road, as it got poured into a third container.)

Thanks.

 

[California]

Add some 2-cycle oil in same proportions you would use in an outboard or other water-cooled 2-cycle if you are worried about it.

But it's probably just dyed ordinary diesel.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I would not put motor oil in the fuel, I also would reccomend 2 cycle oil...

This is always what we did when running diesels in extreme cold, #1 diesel with 2 cycle in it...and it doesn't take much...

SR

 

[clemsonfor]

I would put two stroke as well. I think what he might have been getting at is that it was thinner so add it thicker to increase viscosity?


So are you worried you can't find deisel? Sure you can burn kerosene but it would not be my first choice? If you can't find off road just burn on road, it's the same thing and I would put 2 stroke in any diesel anyway for our old tractors. You don't save $2 by useing offroad and you probably don't use that much anyway to matter. If you do you can file for a refund for it on your taxes if you use enough to matter.

 

[California]

Come to think of it, I recently had a half tank of kerosene in the YM186D.

From time to time I take fluorescent tubes, batteries etc to the county's Hazardous Waste Collection Center. They are strong on re-use where legal. Paint, garden chemicals, etc that they take in that are legal to sell go right back out onto the free table.

Last trip I came home with two gallons of kerosene heater oil and three quarts of scented Tiki Torch Lamp Fuel, labelled in small print 'Contents: kerosene.' Ok, good enough for the girls I go with, as an old Carpenter buddy used to say. That's about $7 of fuel. I added 2-cycle oil at 50:1, Power Service at whatever level its label specifies, and ran this mixed with an equal amount of diesel. No observable difference from straight diesel.

Also scored a half gallon of Amway cleaner (same instructions as Simple Green) and 2 gallons of something similar labelled 'gym floor cleaner' that I will use for cleaning parts. Also some more Rustoleum paint for the tractor implements. The trip was worthwhile.

Yeah I'm cheap. Or as I learned from grandparents, Waste Not, Want Not.

 

[clemsonfor]

Come to think of it, I recently had a half tank of kerosene in the YM186D.

From time to time I take fluorescent tubes, batteries etc to the county's Hazardous Waste Collection Center. They are strong on re-use where legal. Paint, garden chemicals, etc that they take in that are legal to sell go right back out onto the free table.

Last trip I came home with two gallons of kerosene stove oil and three quarts of scented Tiki Torch Lamp Fuel, labelled in small print 'Contents: kerosene.' Ok, good enough for the girls I go with, as an old Carpenter buddy used to say. That's about $7 of fuel. I added 2-cycle oil at 50:1, Power Service at whatever level its label specifies, and ran this mixed with an equal amount of diesel. No observable difference from straight diesel.

Also scored a half gallon of Amway cleaner (same instructions as Simple Green) and 2 gallons of something similar labelled 'gym floor cleaner' that I will use for cleaning parts. Also some more Rustoleum paint for the tractor implements. The trip was worthwhile.

Yeah I'm cheap. Or as I learned from grandparents, Waste Not, Want Not.

The counties here that I have run into have nothing like that. But the military instalations that I work on have a center just like that. To dispose of hazmat stuff. But they do just like that. Good paint goes on shelf, motor oil, cleaners, bug spray, fuel, and all kinds of lubes and additives for automotive. All free.

 

[Jtullis13]

I would just add the Walmart TC-W3 outboard oil to it at 100:1 and call it good. It's always worked for me.

 

[bmaverick]

Last trip I came home with two gallons of kerosene heater oil and three quarts of scented Tiki Torch Lamp Fuel, labelled in small print 'Contents: kerosene.' Ok, good enough for the girls I go with, as an old Carpenter buddy used to say.

Let us know what the Tiki Torch lamp fuel smells like when you run it.



I was running with K2 and off-road for the first six months, then the on-road stuff at the fueling stations off the interstate was actually better priced. So, I run with on-road diesel now. No color dies in the fuel system anymore.

If Tiki fuel is cheap by the gallon and smells a whole lot better than diesel alone, I may switch too!

 

[California]

Tiki Torch lamp fuel smells like a little gift shop, or similar place with scented candles burning. But that's when pouring it.

Running as fuel there's no noticeable scent.

Cheaper? Not usually. But occasionally there's a glitch and kerosene intended for homeowner use is cheaper than diesel. Several years ago a new Home Depot store here, in the springtime, closed out 2 gallon jugs of de-odorized kerosene intended for space heaters probably because the new store had received 'the standard quantity' when nobody here uses the stuff. I think it was marked down to $1.99 for 2 gallon jugs. I bought several.

Question for today: is paint thinner close enough to diesel to run as fuel (with lubricants added, and blended with diesel)? I often see that for free where I got that lamp fuel.

 

[Industrial Toys]

I ran out of lub additive so I have been getting rid of a little surplus ATF into the fuel. Hope that won't hurt.

Kerosene around here has been very expensive for decades compared to Diesel.