KAMA 454 options, trany and FEL bucket

[Paddy]

Chip E-mailed today. He's getting ready for assembly on my new KAMA 454 (45 hp/4500lb). He's inspected and cleaned the fuel tank.

Now the options. Transmission. On this load that Chip just received, one of the KAMA 454 came with the "creeper" (16x8)option. The regular is the Shutle shift. (8x8)

The issue is how she goes from forward to reverse. The creeper has the reverse shift on the Hi/Lo lever(off set path), where the Shutle has a straight back and forth on the geer shift. Also, the creeper has this Hi/Lo to the left freeing up your right hand.

I like the idea of getting extra options but, I don't see any ground engaging equipment in my future except grader blade/yard box. I will have a FEL on most of the time and a BH on occasion. If the shifting for forward to reverse will be a lot more effort then.....

OK, One more. FEL bucket size. I must deside 5' or 6' wide. The loader is the Koyker 195. I supose if the bucket detaches with out much effort, getting around in tighter spaces won't an issue because I'd just leave it off when not using it. The KAMA is 5' at the front and 6' in the rear.

Thanks for any input, he starts Thursday!
Early March delivery

Patrick

 

[Scozz]

I would definitely go with the shuttle shift, especially if your dong loader work. I would also get the 6' bucket ... That is the set-up on my KM454 .. shuttle and Koyker 195 w/72" bucket. The machine has plenty of power to handle the larger bucket. ... Good Luck..Scozz

 

[Paddy]

That was my gut feel too. With 45 hp and 4000 + lbs it makes sence to go with the larger bucket. does your bucket remove easy?

Patrick

 

[greg_g]

Creeper is suitable for plows, rototillers, etc. I never ever used it on either Jinma. Have 8x8 shuttle on the KAMA. And with the type of work I do around here, I would never go back to a creeper.

Stance is a personal preference, but I thought I'd let you know mine is set up at 66.5 inches wide - front AND rear. VERY stable.

If it's ease of installation/removal you're after, you should forget the bottom end stuff - and go with a Quick Detach design FEL. Otherwise you may as well leave the regular mount FELs on permanently.

//greg//

 

[Scozz]

The "bucket" is not intended to be removed from the Koyker loader, as Greg stated it is not Quick Detach. The entire loader can be removed from the tractor if thats what your talking about. I have not had mine removed yet ... it isn't likely I'll ever take it off. It doesn't look like a big ordeal to remove though, quick connect hoses and a couple of pins.... probably 15 minutes or so...Scozz

 

[bluechip]

Actually, it is not to big a job to remove the bucket, just remove the 4 pins. If you are not going to put another pin on attachment (hay spear, etc) then you should tie wrap the curl cylinders to the lift arms so they are not flopping around. Quick attache (skid steer type) is available but it adds quite a bit of cost, which is something we try to limit on Chinese tractors...

 

[Paddy]

Scozz,

I see on your profile you have a BH. Is this on your KAMA 454? I have a used Ford 758 I'm planning using with my KAMA. What kind do you have? Works good?

Patrick

 

[bluechip]

ONe thing I should add. If you do decide to use the tractor with the loader in place, without the bucket, you will want to be very careful not to hit something with the laoder arms that might bend them out of alignment. The Koyker 195 is a "quick attach" loader meaning the entire loader can be removed in a matter of minutes, (putting it back take a few more and it helps if you park the loade on a hard flat surface).

 

[Scozz]

Patrick, I have a Cad digger 728 that I made for 3 pt. I run it off the tractor remotes. I've gotten a few hours on it with the 454 ... works great. Have to use a bungie cord to hold the remote lever forward to keep hydraulics flowing but other than that no problems. The remotes have adequate gpm to run this backhoe no problem ... Your gonna love your tractor! ...Scozz