Kioti DK35SE Steering Problem

[behoof]

Hi all...

Hope someone can offer some help on this?

My DK35SE S/N GT6300177 was driven a distance on the road with the REMOTE lever engaged and no implement attached so it got pretty hot. When I got there nothing worked, no PTO, no FEL and no steering... the steering would work but it was like it had a mind of its own. I trailered it back to the farm and changed the transmission oil and filter and the PTO and FEL are now normal but the steering is very heavy then all of a sudden it will walk right or left to the stop on its own.

I'm at a total loss on what's up with this. I've read the manual that I bought for it a number of years ago but it really doesn't go into detail like other shop or overhaul manuals for other equipment I have.

I will be very grateful for any insight you all could offer.

 

[K5lwq]

I think the PTO being engaged without any thing attached did not cause any of the issues that you described. Perhaps it was low on fluid or filter was clogged?

 

[mudober]

Maybe too hot and a valve gaulded

 

[behoof]

I think the PTO being engaged without any thing attached did not cause any of the issues that you described. Perhaps it was low on fluid or filter was clogged?

K5lwq,

Please note that I changed my original post to read REMOTE engaged instead of PTO...

Thanks for the reply...
I had checked the fluid and I change the oil and filter twice a year... In one of the online chats someone had mentioned that if that remote lever is engaged and nothing is attached it can wreak havoc on these tractors... I don't know but I did find the lever engaged when I got it back to the farm and put it in neutral. As mentioned, I then changed the oil and filter because it had gotten hot enough to smoke.

So that's kind of where I am right now... everything works except the steering... as mentioned it is quite hard to steer at first then it will just walk to the right or left stop on its own if you let the steering wheel go.

John

 

[behoof]

Maybe too hot and a valve gaulded

Hi mudober which valve do you mean? Please note that I changed my original post to read REMOTE engaged instead of PTO...

John

 

[Harry in Ky]

An SE tractor would be mechanical shuttle, yes? Your tractor has a dual section hydraulic pump. One for the high pressure system and one for steering and transmission related clutch packs.

Running down the road with PTO engaged shouldn't adversely affect anything. That wasn't the cause of your problem. The filter is a possibility, yes, so changing that could well have a bearing on getting things working again. Changing the fluid most likely wasn't a part of it. Depending on how dirty it was that's a judgement call. Quite often when a hydraulic problem occurs someone will suggest "change the oil and filters". Filters I agree on, depending on how long it's been since done last. The oil, that's another matter. If the oil still looks good and doesn't appear contaminated with anything, I would leave that for later and concentrate on what's wrong first. When's the last time you heard of an engine problem being cured by an oil change?

Since most of your hydraulics are now working again, you probably solved that already. The steering symptoms you describe could be a steering valve problem. That's the sort of thing you get when the valve spool fails to center and return to neutral. The two problems could be related but not necessarily.

In order to make the case that overheating was involved, you would need to determine just how hot was the fluid. If it truly was that hot, something other than the PTO caused it. You can look into that after you figure out the steering issue.

 

[K5lwq]

K5lwq,

Thanks for the reply...
I had checked the fluid and I change the oil and filter twice a year... In one of the online chats someone had mentioned that if that remote lever is engaged and nothing is attached it can wreak havoc on these tractors... I don't know but I did find the lever engaged when I got it back to the farm and put it in neutral. As mentioned, I then changed the oil and filter because it had gotten hot enough to smoke.

So that's kind of where I am right now... everything works except the steering... as mentioned it is quite hard to steer at first then it will just walk to the right or left stop on its own if you let the steering wheel go.

John

I did not understand a remote valve was engaged without anything attached. I was thinking just the PTO. Definitely that would explain the problems.

 

[behoof]

I did not understand a remote valve was engaged without anything attached. I was thinking just the PTO. Definitely that would explain the problems.

K5lwq,

Yeah I originally didn't put "Remote" in my post, sorry...

Would you have any idea of where I need to look for a solution to this heavy, walks by itself steering?

As always they break when you need them most... bale moving time...

John

 

[K5lwq]

Since most of your hydraulics are now working again, you probably solved that already. The steering symptoms you describe could be a steering valve problem. That's the sort of thing you get when the valve spool fails to center and return to neutral. The two problems could be related but not necessarily.

Behoof, Harry had the right idea and I agree with him. I would be looking closely at the steering valve as the possible issue.

 

[behoof]

Behoof, Harry had the right idea and I agree with him. I would be looking closely at the steering valve as the possible issue.

Thanks for the reply... and about all I can do is "Look at it" no manual I've got goes any further than illustrated parts breakdowns...

Will post anything I find and hopefully help someone else... I'm sure I'm not alone...