Kioti factory fill into Ferguson TEA-20?

[OkieDave]

The reason for the early first service is because the parts all wear as they seat, leaving metal particles and shavings (and bigger) in the oil. You really don't want to be putting metal-loaded oil into another machine.

I've had the privilege of seeing what a magnetic oil plug collects after break-in on new engines; the early life of a mechanical system generates a truly impressive amount of metal. Don't ruin something else by putting all of that abrasive metal into it.

 

[Andrewnewy]

The reason for the early first service is because the parts all wear as they seat, leaving metal particles and shavings (and bigger) in the oil. You really don't want to be putting metal-loaded oil into another machine.

I've had the privilege of seeing what a magnetic oil plug collects after break-in on new engines; the early life of a mechanical system generates a truly impressive amount of metal. Don't ruin something else by putting all of that abrasive metal into it.

I'm 100% with this comment to, all our tractor brands require a Hyd oil change at 50, mind you most are going to 100 now the reason for this is bedding in filings and left over casting sand.
No other option but to throw it away, it will be the quickest way to kill a tractor!

 

[IndyIan]

The reason for the early first service is because the parts all wear as they seat, leaving metal particles and shavings (and bigger) in the oil. You really don't want to be putting metal-loaded oil into another machine.

I've had the privilege of seeing what a magnetic oil plug collects after break-in on new engines; the early life of a mechanical system generates a truly impressive amount of metal. Don't ruin something else by putting all of that abrasive metal into it.

Going by the dip stick on the trans I think I'll be able to read the date on a penny at the bottom of a 5 gallon pail of the drained fluid... It looks new so far. I guess when I drain it we'll see, if there's obviously bad stuff in it then off to the recyclers it goes... I'm thinking the fancy $$$ filters protecting the HST and Hyd pumps will have cleaned everything out of the oil by 50 hrs, plus the mag. drain plugs getting the rest. But we'll see.
I know I'll dump the front axle fluid and engine oil for sure.

 

[Soundguy]

Wet brakes on a Ferguson 20?? I don't think so.

maybee that's a qute way to say it needs axle seals


on an unrelated note.. boy am I happy to have the engine back together on my 4000..

 

[IndyIan]

maybee that's a qute way to say it needs axle seals

Yep, I think you're right.:confused2: I'll give the old tractor credit that it starts and runs and everything still seems to work, but it did sway me to get a new or almost new tractor...

 

[dennis52]

I'm 100% with this comment to, all our tractor brands require a Hyd oil change at 50, mind you most are going to 100 now the reason for this is bedding in filings and left over casting sand.
No other option but to throw it away, it will be the quickest way to kill a tractor!

Andrew, what is your take on using diesel additives for increased lubricity of the fuel pump.
Is the diesel in all states here mostly ulsd.

B5 and B20 do not seem to be available at many fuel outlets yet.

Can you suggest a locally available additive product that is not snake oil.

 

[Andrewnewy]

Andrew, what is your take on using diesel additives for increased lubricity of the fuel pump.
Is the diesel in all states here mostly ulsd.

B5 and B20 do not seem to be available at many fuel outlets yet.

Can you suggest a locally available additive product that is not snake oil.

Hi Dennis, can't comment on other states as I haven't had anything to do with fuel outside wa, but simply put we don't recommend anything, and I have been told by quiet a few specialist injector/pump repairers all those products on the market don't really do anything and quiet a few actually cause more wear than do good, that also said when you look at what comes through the workshop it's not fuel pump or injector problems, it's generally the mechanical or electric that control them, pump timing or simply lack of servicing. And this is on tractors 20-30+ years old. So I wouldn't be to concerned. At the end of the day, kioti for example takes a lot of advice from the importers so if they were to find a magic product that would increase performance / life of a part they would tell you to use it. A perfect example of this is grease. They could sell tractors without grease points, which would increase wear and hence increase part sales. However they have figured out grease prolongs the life of parts so they tell you to use it.

Hope your still enjoying your new kioti and the 'new' hasn't worn off yet!

 

[dennis52]

Hi Dennis, can't comment on other states as I haven't had anything to do with fuel outside wa, but simply put we don't recommend anything, and I have been told by quiet a few specialist injector/pump repairers all those products on the market don't really do anything and quiet a few actually cause more wear than do good, that also said when you look at what comes through the workshop it's not fuel pump or injector problems, it's generally the mechanical or electric that control them, pump timing or simply lack of servicing. And this is on tractors 20-30+ years old. So I wouldn't be to concerned. At the end of the day, kioti for example takes a lot of advice from the importers so if they were to find a magic product that would increase performance / life of a part they would tell you to use it. A perfect example of this is grease. They could sell tractors without grease points, which would increase wear and hence increase part sales. However they have figured out grease prolongs the life of parts so they tell you to use it.

Hope your still enjoying your new kioti and the 'new' hasn't worn off yet!

Thanks again for your always good advice. Up to 200 hrs today on the DS4510 and the tractor still looks and runs like new. Have a merry Xmas.