Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher

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KW Land Works

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Panama City, FL
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Cat 297 CMI C175
We demo'd a PC88MR-10 Komatsu with a Fecon head last week and it worked great for what we were doing. We still want to try one or two other 8 ton carriers but definitely sticking with planar teeth either way. We run Cimaf teeth on our Cat with great results and the 65 hp 'matsu needed all the help it could get from sharp teeth.

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The Fecon had their Samurai teeth and it performed as expected. I'm not used to running planar teeth without some means of depth control so that was interesting. I stalled it out dead several times and I wonder if DCR would have prevented it. When the demo unit came to me, the teeth were pretty well shot. After about 5 hours of cutting, I sharpened them up and it made a noticeable difference but several were still too far gone to be brought back to new condition. Fortunately, we were mostly cutting brush.

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The Samurai teeth initially struck me as being overly aggressively with regard to the knife angle but I hit a car tire w/ steel rim (one of the stall outs) and it didn't damage them as much as I expected.

I expect the Fecon DCR and Cimaf head will run about the same as far as teeth go but I'm looking forward to testing out both.

The head put a significant drag on the carrier and you could really tell when running the tracks. Fortunately, there was no real drop in slew power and that's what I used the most. The setup we were running wasn't wired for continuous flow so we had to rig up some zipties on the trigger to keep it spinning. If that weren't the case, it would have been easy to turn off the head while making moves with the tracks. My second complaint is the touchiness of the stick controls. I'm not sure if some servo controller gains needed to be adjusted or if it is a characteristic inherent to a relatively heavy attachment but it would get into what felt like a positive feedback oscillation that would worsen until you let off the stick controller. It mostly happened when cutting to the side vs straight ahead while trying to make slow stick movements.

I took some GoPro video and will post the link as soon as I get it uploaded.
 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher
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It isn't a pretty video but it gets the idea across. I reduced the majority of it to 10x speed. Towards the end it goes to 1x for mulching of a water oak.
Again, the teeth were in poor shape so it'd do better out of the box.


 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher #3  
interesting thread. We can always use more power but you were able to work with what you got.
I wonder how something like a disc mulcher would work for that type of brush?
 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher #4  
From what I've seen Kubota kx 080 is also a good choice. Sunbelt ag expo next week in Moultrie Ga.
 
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Thanks t320. I've had one quoted but will take a closer look.
 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher #6  
I'm getting ready to mount a head on a cat 311. I am looking at cimaf and fecon. I run both on skid steers. My question to you is how did you like the fecon with fgt rotar??? Did that gear case sticking out get in your way? It doesn't look like you had the rake/guarding package on the demo.how did the samurai teeth hold up? Could u sharpen them or are they use/ replace... Thanks
 
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The gearbox didn't bother me a bit. Of the heads I've seen, FECON might have the best hose routing. The samurai teeth did pretty good considering how poor of shape they were in when I took the keys. They are considerably more difficult to sharpen than the Cimaf teeth and their rake angle changes as they're sharpened. I don't know what they cost but at least they're two-sided. I stalled the head out several times and I think the DCR's would make a big difference. The one I demo'd didn't have DCR's and I think it's a must with high rake cutter geometry like Cimaf and Fecon samurais. Otherwise, the cutter pulls the carrier/workpiece together too quickly. Lemme know if I didn't answer your ?
 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher #8  
Did you bid on that 75 acre Eglin job?
 
   / Komatsu/Fecon 8 ton Excavator Mulcher #10  
Yes, about a month ago. They are clearing for an automated sniper range.
Do you have gps on your mulching machines? I know the antenna would not last long on the roof while mulching in the tall stuff.
 

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