Kubota BX 23 or B7510 vs. Kioti ???

[Chuxster]

I was looking to buy a small Kubota BX 23 or a B7510 and THEN... I saw the Kioti web site and now I am interested in a Kioti. Did any of you look into either Kubota the buy a Kioti, and if so which one did you purchase. I am in need of a FEL and BH only (no mowing). I hope you can help me decide. Are you happy with your Kioti tractor or would you rather have a Kubota?

 

[450EXC]

I looked at Kabota and New Holland and bought a Kioti CK30 2 months ago. No problems at all and it works great, 70 hours so far.

I am completly satisfied with my decision, I'm glad I did'nt buy a Kabota.

Good luck with the hunt, Larry

 

[Killowatt]

I wanted a BX23 TLB in the worst way-until I saw it "in person". Then realized it only had 5-6 inches of ground clearance. I needed more! Then I saw the seat and steering wheel were about level. The st. wheel ended up between my knees when I sat on it........This tractor was just too small for me.
So I 'upgraded' to the 7510 with TLB and mower. It was great...had lots of clearance, bigger frame, more HP, etc............but it was $20,000!!! Too much money for me.
Then, ta da, I found the CK20 Kioti. Big frame, heavy, loader and backhoe, 60"MMM and 12" ground clearance. And comfortable with cruise control!! For $15K I had to have it!
I now have only 35 hours on it, but so far I love it. Haven't got the BH yet, but the rest work great.
Regards, Killowatt
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[Donnyj]

Looked at Kubota 38hp. Looked at NH 35, 40, and 45 hp. All great machines, just to much money for me. Saved over $6,000 and bought a DK45S 45hp. Machine is very nice to operate and well built. Kioti is very good to deal with as a company. They will try to help you in any way possible. Price shop more than one dealer as I found there was a big difference in prices from different dealers. Very good machine otherwise. Good luck!!
Donny

 

[HODAK]

I looked at NH TC29, NH TC33, and Kubota L2800 and 3400. Was really interested in the L2800, but the extra features of the KIOTI swayed me. CK30HST owner with 27 hrs. I like it and I think the quality is right up there with the rest.

 

[DrewL]

I called two Kubota dealers for quotes on machines comperable to the CK30 LB. I quit after those first two attempts because the quote were SSSSOOOO out of bounds. Even more unbelievable was the quotes from three NH dealers. By far, the most expensive (quote wise) machine out there. I made the deal Friday for a CK30 HST LB . Should be ready by thursday.................................................YEAH! This brings me to another point...................."Big Three" tractor pricing is loosing many sales best I can tell. Compare a Kioti product to ALL other manufacturers. The standard features are unmatched

 

[jim_wilson]

When I was looking for a tractor last year I looked at the BX23, the 7510 and 7610 with backhoe, the Kioti CK20 with backhoe, and the Massey GC2310. I knew I needed a backhoe and cost was somewhat of an issue for me which was why the CK20 was in the mix. After looking and trying to decide for while I came to the conclusion that the 7510/7610 was more money than I wanted to spend. That left the BX23, GC2310 and the CK20. I ended up discounting the CK20 for a number of reasons:
- they seemed to be in short supply - I could only find one dealer at the time that had one on their lot.
- I liked the tractor and liked the specs but I did not like the way the bachhoe was mounted on the CK20 - I could not find anybody who had a backhoe in stock mounted so I had to go by pictures, and from what the pictures showed I really did not like how far the backhoe hung off the back of the tractor.
- I also liked the 4pt hookup system for the BX23 backhoe much better - seemed like it would be a lot easier to swap between hoe and 3pt ( this has proven to be true, I can swap very quickly)
- at the time I could not find a lot of longevity info on the Kioti's
- my previous experience with equipment of all types has taught me to follow the crowd, buying what is the most popular in most cases means you get better support over the long run, more info from the user base etc. The BX23 meets this criteria.

I have to say that the biggest thing that took the Kioti out of the running for me was the backhoe setup and availability. If I could have seen one in person it might have made me want it more. If the backhoe was more tightly integrated into the tractor and did not have as much overhang I might have spent some more time looking to find one in stock somewhere and might be tractoring with a Kioti now instead of a Kubota.

 

[shoppintractors]

Jim,

I think you made the right choice for a property (1/2 acre?) of your size. You would have enjoyed the extra capacities of the CK20 or the B7510 however, manuevering the larger tractors on a smaller lot might be cumbersome.

Don

 

[KiotiJohn]

Welcome to TBN.
I searched for a year, looked at all the makes including the imported "gray market" brands and found the Kioti CK20HST with FEL and BH to be the most tractor for the money.
I seriously considered the B7510, but it was way light, and cost way more. If there hadn't been the Kioti, I probably would have bought the Kubota. Nice tractor, well made, but for the reasons I stated, and a few others, I bought the Kioti. Over 300 hours later, I'm not sorry a bit. No problems and the backhoe has dug a ton of stumps too.
John

 

[DrewL]

Other than the "Iron Horses" and the gray markets, I don't know of a machine to acutally stay away from. Today, tractors are for the most part very good. Follow the crowd is a good analogy....................many people did just that if there were no Kioti's to be found /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif