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I'm not real sure but from what I've heard all the new models aren't going to hit the dealers until March.
JimMorrissey
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They are being manufactured now and the southern states are getting theirs first. However, my dealer in frigid Vermont will be getting one in late February, other dealers are saying possibly May. I believe mine (big Kubota/NH dealer) was only allotted two machines. Get 'em while you can. I sure would love to have my name on that first one.... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
BTW: I was quoted two relatively close prices in New York and Vermont. One was for $38,000 and the other was for $36,500. Both had: work lights, loader hydraulic ports, quick attach hoe bucket, 18" bucket, rubber street pads, and tool box. The extra loader hydraulics sounds cool......
BTW: I was quoted two relatively close prices in New York and Vermont. One was for $38,000 and the other was for $36,500. Both had: work lights, loader hydraulic ports, quick attach hoe bucket, 18" bucket, rubber street pads, and tool box. The extra loader hydraulics sounds cool......
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Jon,
Did you see this <font color="blue">response</font> by Skypup to a previous post of yours?
Did you see this <font color="blue">response</font> by Skypup to a previous post of yours?
tilemanct
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Saw the new L-39 at the World of Concrete in Las Vegas a couple weeks ago. Only available in GST transmission. No remotes either. The Kubota rep at the show was bombarded with those questions all show long. They will be available on the next re-design.
MessickFarmEqu
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There is a front remote kit as well as a top and tilt block. They are in the pricing book as well as on the protype model I saw.
otus_branch
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I'm glad to hear that front remotes and T&T will be options on the L-39. But I'm new enough to the CUT/TLB worlds to have a few questions (apologies if the answers to these are obvious to everyone else).
1) How would a Top & Tilt block work with a backhoe? The picture of T&T setups that I've looked at here at TBN make is seem like a lot of hardware would have to be removed (along with the 3PH of course) in order to mount the 4-Point-Subframe Backhoe. Is this true, or has Kubota somehow simplified T&T/backhoe compatibility for the L-39?
If the L-39 can really handle both, then wow, what an all around machine she will be!!
2) Anyone know what the flow will be through the front remote on the L-39? I'm very curious/hopeful about hydraulic augers and other skid-steer attachments. Once again, my mind boggles at the possibilities here...
3) Anyone seen what the ground speed will be in the lowest gear of the L-39's GST? I'm curious about this in regards to using the machine for tilling, bedding, and transplanting, so slow will be key...
Thanks for all your insight!
-otus
1) How would a Top & Tilt block work with a backhoe? The picture of T&T setups that I've looked at here at TBN make is seem like a lot of hardware would have to be removed (along with the 3PH of course) in order to mount the 4-Point-Subframe Backhoe. Is this true, or has Kubota somehow simplified T&T/backhoe compatibility for the L-39?
If the L-39 can really handle both, then wow, what an all around machine she will be!!
2) Anyone know what the flow will be through the front remote on the L-39? I'm very curious/hopeful about hydraulic augers and other skid-steer attachments. Once again, my mind boggles at the possibilities here...
3) Anyone seen what the ground speed will be in the lowest gear of the L-39's GST? I'm curious about this in regards to using the machine for tilling, bedding, and transplanting, so slow will be key...
Thanks for all your insight!
-otus
JimMorrissey
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"I'm glad to hear that front remotes and T&T will be options on the L-39. But I'm new enough to the CUT/TLB worlds to have a few questions (apologies if the answers to these are obvious to everyone else)."
-No need to apolgize. That what TBN is for.
"How would a Top & Tilt block work with a backhoe? The picture of T&T setups that I've looked at here at TBN make is seem like a lot of hardware would have to be removed (along with the 3PH of course) in order to mount the 4-Point-Subframe Backhoe. Is this true, or has Kubota somehow simplified T&T/backhoe compatibility for the L-39?"
-You will have to remove the arms before you install the backhoe after you use the 3pt hitch. Others can testify that it's not that bad....maybe take a few minutes and some hydro oil on your hands.
"If the L-39 can really handle both, then wow, what an all around machine she will be!!"
-It will handle both with a little bit of work. This is the same with any hoe mouted with T&T. (rear remotes are extra $$)
"Anyone know what the flow will be through the front remote on the L-39? I'm very curious/hopeful about hydraulic augers and other skid-steer attachments. Once again, my mind boggles at the possibilities here..."
-I believe the specs call for 11 gpm for the loader and the backhoe. There is a seperate pump for the power steering, 6.5 gpm and another pump for the boom swing on the hoe, 6.5 gpm. At 11 gpm, it seems some smaller skid steer attachment are going to be usable; not all. Most hydraulic powered implements require about 15gpm. Some research is definitely in order.
"Anyone seen what the ground speed will be in the lowest gear of the L-39's GST? I'm curious about this in regards to using the machine for tilling, bedding, and transplanting, so slow will be key..."
-Check the existing specs on a L3830 with the a 12 speed GST. Rat mentioned that it's likely the same transmission according to his Kubota mechanic that just returned from L39 training.
Indeed she will be fine. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
-No need to apolgize. That what TBN is for.
"How would a Top & Tilt block work with a backhoe? The picture of T&T setups that I've looked at here at TBN make is seem like a lot of hardware would have to be removed (along with the 3PH of course) in order to mount the 4-Point-Subframe Backhoe. Is this true, or has Kubota somehow simplified T&T/backhoe compatibility for the L-39?"
-You will have to remove the arms before you install the backhoe after you use the 3pt hitch. Others can testify that it's not that bad....maybe take a few minutes and some hydro oil on your hands.
"If the L-39 can really handle both, then wow, what an all around machine she will be!!"
-It will handle both with a little bit of work. This is the same with any hoe mouted with T&T. (rear remotes are extra $$)
"Anyone know what the flow will be through the front remote on the L-39? I'm very curious/hopeful about hydraulic augers and other skid-steer attachments. Once again, my mind boggles at the possibilities here..."
-I believe the specs call for 11 gpm for the loader and the backhoe. There is a seperate pump for the power steering, 6.5 gpm and another pump for the boom swing on the hoe, 6.5 gpm. At 11 gpm, it seems some smaller skid steer attachment are going to be usable; not all. Most hydraulic powered implements require about 15gpm. Some research is definitely in order.
"Anyone seen what the ground speed will be in the lowest gear of the L-39's GST? I'm curious about this in regards to using the machine for tilling, bedding, and transplanting, so slow will be key..."
-Check the existing specs on a L3830 with the a 12 speed GST. Rat mentioned that it's likely the same transmission according to his Kubota mechanic that just returned from L39 training.
Indeed she will be fine. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
JimMorrissey
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Regarding ground speed for tilling etc......Not only can you control the speed through the transmission, but you can also control the speed with the throttle. Throttle pedals are on the deck of the L39 and you should be able to speed up and slow down based on how much fuel you supply. Although this could affect the speed at which your PTO spins.....Not sure how that relationship works. Maybe you should post another question and ask about the interaction of PTO speed and throttle controlled GTS transmissions.
JimMorrissey
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That's odd. Mine was ordered with front remotes and I can easily add rear remotes later. Not sure what "no remotes" meant from the Kubota rep. It is unclear if the L39 will ever be released with HST (so say the engineers).
Man i'm excited to see one of these tractors, hopefully our dealers will have one soon.
I have been asking this question to no avail for awhile now. Is the total length with the FEL and BH comparable to the L35. Also is the L39 a refined L35 with better hydraulics, stiffer frame, higher hp engine, but still basically the same frame? Or is it a total redesign in a new frame?
The reason I ask is because I need to know what size trailer I'm going to need to purchase to pull it around if I do opt to buy it.
Thanks
Tim
I have been asking this question to no avail for awhile now. Is the total length with the FEL and BH comparable to the L35. Also is the L39 a refined L35 with better hydraulics, stiffer frame, higher hp engine, but still basically the same frame? Or is it a total redesign in a new frame?
The reason I ask is because I need to know what size trailer I'm going to need to purchase to pull it around if I do opt to buy it.
Thanks
Tim
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Tim,
I would think the same trailer size required for a L35 would be OK. I think the weight of the machine is more important for trailering. A L39 with loader and backhoe attached weighs just under 7,000lbs. A 3/4 ton pickup is in order here.
You could ask a JD dealer what trailer size they recommend for a 110. The L39 doesn't weigh as much as a 110, so you should be safe with what they suggest....OR, just search in the JD discussion section for 110 and trailer. You could PM someone who owns a 110 too.
As far as the design goes. I think the frame was redesigned or partially redesigned based on the literature. The L39 has a new "brace-less frame" for the loader so it says. -Nobody owns one yet so it's hard to tell. It will be at least a month before all the details are available.
I have a schematic here of the machine. I'll have to figure out how long it is with a ruler. I've got some good measurement to work off of, so I should be able to get a accurate length. Overall length is not listed in the Kubota specifications as far as I can tell.
It's going to be one sweet machine, we know that much /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I would think the same trailer size required for a L35 would be OK. I think the weight of the machine is more important for trailering. A L39 with loader and backhoe attached weighs just under 7,000lbs. A 3/4 ton pickup is in order here.
You could ask a JD dealer what trailer size they recommend for a 110. The L39 doesn't weigh as much as a 110, so you should be safe with what they suggest....OR, just search in the JD discussion section for 110 and trailer. You could PM someone who owns a 110 too.
As far as the design goes. I think the frame was redesigned or partially redesigned based on the literature. The L39 has a new "brace-less frame" for the loader so it says. -Nobody owns one yet so it's hard to tell. It will be at least a month before all the details are available.
I have a schematic here of the machine. I'll have to figure out how long it is with a ruler. I've got some good measurement to work off of, so I should be able to get a accurate length. Overall length is not listed in the Kubota specifications as far as I can tell.
It's going to be one sweet machine, we know that much /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Thanks Jim for the info. You don't have to exert yourself on the specs for my sake. If it is comparable to the L35 I think I will be all right.
I have an F350 to pull it around but unfortunately it has the 5.4 triton instead of the deisel. The manufacturers specs say that I should be able to tow it so we will see.
Where did you get the schematic if you don't mind me asking?
Tim
I have an F350 to pull it around but unfortunately it has the 5.4 triton instead of the deisel. The manufacturers specs say that I should be able to tow it so we will see.
Where did you get the schematic if you don't mind me asking?
Tim
JimMorrissey
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Tim,
Figure 10,000 lbs you'll have to drag around (trailer and TLB)....Diesel would be nice and an Allison transmission.
It's a photocopy of one of the few Kubota published pieces of L39 literature. A dealer I stopped in at in upstate New York offered it to me. I gladly accepted /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif He managed to get one from Kubota at the dealer show in Georgia.
The literature shows the new loader in action...That auto-leveling bucket is going to be nice. The control area for the hoe looks quite nice too.
I've got to stop this and get back to work! LOL
Figure 10,000 lbs you'll have to drag around (trailer and TLB)....Diesel would be nice and an Allison transmission.
It's a photocopy of one of the few Kubota published pieces of L39 literature. A dealer I stopped in at in upstate New York offered it to me. I gladly accepted /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif He managed to get one from Kubota at the dealer show in Georgia.
The literature shows the new loader in action...That auto-leveling bucket is going to be nice. The control area for the hoe looks quite nice too.
I've got to stop this and get back to work! LOL
OP
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Tim,
I received your private message and have analyzed the specifications with my dealer and his product catalog which is not availbale to individuals. These are the results of comparing the L35 and the L39:
Weight of L39 is 976 lbs heavier
Length of the L39 is 9.6" longer
Width of the L39 is 4.1" wider.
The L39 is a bigger machine, however, most people who have seen the machine believe the machine looks like the same size as a L35. However, my dealer who has seen the machine, says that visually it may look like the size of the L35 because of the styling of the curved hood and loader arms.
If you continue to analyze the specs, the majority of the weight increase is in the backhoe. Which only makes sense since the backhoe has a significant larger capacity than the L35.
Also, we hear how improved the hydraulics are on the L39. This is only a play on words and there is no magic here. You would only expect increased hydraulics with a 4 hp increase of the machine. Again, there really is nothing magically going on with this machine to improve the hydraulics only horsepower.
I have debated this issue with myself for almost 2 months whether to purchase a new L35 or L39.
The extra weight of the machine was a major factor to buy the L35 since I use an F150 for towing and the fact that it is a new model. I am sure once I see the machine i will want one and will kick myself for my decision. In the final analysis, I settled for the size of the L35 and the fact that I would not be able to buy a new L35 again because inventories are almost depleted according to my dealer.
Good luck with your decision and let us know what you did. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Jon
I received your private message and have analyzed the specifications with my dealer and his product catalog which is not availbale to individuals. These are the results of comparing the L35 and the L39:
Weight of L39 is 976 lbs heavier
Length of the L39 is 9.6" longer
Width of the L39 is 4.1" wider.
The L39 is a bigger machine, however, most people who have seen the machine believe the machine looks like the same size as a L35. However, my dealer who has seen the machine, says that visually it may look like the size of the L35 because of the styling of the curved hood and loader arms.
If you continue to analyze the specs, the majority of the weight increase is in the backhoe. Which only makes sense since the backhoe has a significant larger capacity than the L35.
Also, we hear how improved the hydraulics are on the L39. This is only a play on words and there is no magic here. You would only expect increased hydraulics with a 4 hp increase of the machine. Again, there really is nothing magically going on with this machine to improve the hydraulics only horsepower.
I have debated this issue with myself for almost 2 months whether to purchase a new L35 or L39.
The extra weight of the machine was a major factor to buy the L35 since I use an F150 for towing and the fact that it is a new model. I am sure once I see the machine i will want one and will kick myself for my decision. In the final analysis, I settled for the size of the L35 and the fact that I would not be able to buy a new L35 again because inventories are almost depleted according to my dealer.
Good luck with your decision and let us know what you did. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Jon
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<font color="blue"> Also, we hear how improved the hydraulics are on the L39. This is only a play on words and there is no magic here. You would only expect increased hydraulics with a 4 hp increase of the machine. Again, there really is nothing magically going on with this machine to improve the hydraulics only horsepower.
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While GPM and PSI quantify the MAXIMUM capacity, maybe Kubota is talking about the subtle control features like simultaneous control of two movements or finessing something requiring a light touch.
John
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While GPM and PSI quantify the MAXIMUM capacity, maybe Kubota is talking about the subtle control features like simultaneous control of two movements or finessing something requiring a light touch.
John
JimMorrissey
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Such as...newly designed valving and dedicated 6.3gpm pump to the boom (swing).
Thanks littldiesel for the informative reply. I really appreciate having some acutal #'s to wrap my mind around.
How does your F150 pull the L35? I have the F350 with virtually the same engine as you do I bet. The 5.4 triton V8. I am worried that it is underpowered and will have difficulties dragging either tractor up and down hills.
Thanks Again for that valuble information.
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Tim
How does your F150 pull the L35? I have the F350 with virtually the same engine as you do I bet. The 5.4 triton V8. I am worried that it is underpowered and will have difficulties dragging either tractor up and down hills.
Thanks Again for that valuble information.
TBN and the XR650R "Big Red Pig" on yahoogroups are the best
2 forums for quality posts and people on the web
Tim
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Tim, I have no problem towing the L35 with my F150 as far as power goes. The truck has the Triton 5.4 V8 engine with the lower geared rear-end (3:73). I tow the L35 with a 10,000 lb 16' trailer.
I am very satisfied with the power, however, the only thing I get real nervous about is the weigth of the load behind me. Many times the loaded trailer is pushing the truck and I feel like I have no control of the load. Also, there are times when the trailer starts fish tailing on me and starts pushing the truck around. That's the reason I purhased the L35 because I need not want to tow any additional weight.
You will have no problem towing a L39 with an F350.
JON /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I am very satisfied with the power, however, the only thing I get real nervous about is the weigth of the load behind me. Many times the loaded trailer is pushing the truck and I feel like I have no control of the load. Also, there are times when the trailer starts fish tailing on me and starts pushing the truck around. That's the reason I purhased the L35 because I need not want to tow any additional weight.
You will have no problem towing a L39 with an F350.
JON /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
