Kubota M5140?

[muckdp]

In my search for an M5040, I've had a few dealers tell me that Kubota is getting rid of the M5040 (one even said he couldn't order it anymore), and replacing it with the M5140.

Does anyone know anything about this?

 

[TripleR]

Check this thread:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/189738-heavier-grapple-not.html

 

[Country1]

I went by the Kubota dealer today looking at m7040's and saw the m5140 for the 1st time. I got home and did a search on it. Haven't really come up with much... My question is whether they are going to be replacing all the m40 series?.. If so, I'll hold off and wait for a m7140... I'll be placing a call to the dealer when they reopen after the new year break. In the mean time if anyone has any additional info about this, a reply would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Spencer C]

For the M5140, they've eliminated the draft control and gone to a smaller cubic inch engine (still 50hp, though). It's true that dealers can no longer get the M5040, and it's been that way for several months.

 

[Country1]

So no talk of any changes to the other m's for 2011?...
Wonder why there isn't a 5140 listed on the Kubota site yet?

 

[Spencer C]

The only other change to the M lineup is the option of a hydraulic shuttle on the M7040SU.

 

[TripleR]

If you are looking to buy a new Mxx40, you might want to see if it has the new emission controls as there is supposed to be more maintenance involved.

 

[CTW]

Try these two Country1,


M5140 Kubota Tractor | Cavalier International

or

Products: M5140 Kubota Canada Ltd.

 

[Robb71]

The story I got in mid December was that the M5140 will share the same engine as the MX5100.
Horsepower is about the same but I was told the 149ci 5140 engine has less torque than the 186ci 5040 engine.
I was also told I could buy the 5140 about $300 cheaper than the M5040.

My dealer did not have a 5040 in stock, but had no trouble finding one for a dealer transfer. I was told there were quite a few still in the inventory around here. Might be different in California.

 

[Country1]

Interesting, the 5140 seems to be a slight down grade from the 5040?... I figured it would have been the other way around.

 

[muckdp]

Interesting, the 5140 seems to be a slight down grade from the 5040?... I figured it would have been the other way around.

Yeah, I'm surprised as well. Thanks for the info folks.

 

[Country1]

If you are looking to buy a new Mxx40, you might want to see if it has the new emission controls as there is supposed to be more maintenance involved.

Must have missed this post earlier...
As far as emission control, I was told all the M40's went that way starting with the '08 model year.

Triple, I can understand a little added complexity with the possibility of a turbo and EGR, but what added maintenance would EPA Tier IV emissions standards add? Maybe more frequent engine oil drain intervals?..

 

[TripleR]

Must have missed this post earlier...
As far as emission control, I was told all the M40's went that way starting with the '08 model year.

Triple, I can understand a little added complexity with the possibility of a turbo and EGR, but what added maintenance would EPA Tier IV emissions standards add? Maybe more frequent engine oil drain intervals?..

We bought a new M8540 this year and while doing so our salesman mentioned he would be gone a week in school for the new Tier IV engines. At that time he knew nothing about them. I was a little concerned since ours was not a Tier IV and I didn't want to get caught with old technology. I was later told the Tier IV required more maintenance, but not exactly what. I did a little Internet search which seemed to confirm this in addition to an article in Successful Farming.

I believe Tier IV is going to be phased in over time with the larger machines being mandated first.

I don't think maintenance will be more often, just more of it, one of which will be cleaning the new exhaust filtration system. The Tier IV engines will be of a couple of different types, but I won't try to explain them as not being a mechanic, all I know about the is what I have read on the Internet. A search will provide lots of reading information.

Maintenance, oil and fuel

"The day-to-day maintenance between Tier III and Interim Tier IV engines will remain basically unchanged, according to both engine manufacturers. Devices that may have been added to help comply with Tier IV legislation, e.g., a crankcase filter and an aftertreatment system, reportedly have maintenance intervals aligned with other major maintenance intervals on the current product. The exception would be the infrequent ash cleaning of the particulate filters. The EPA has set minimum intervals of 4,500 hours for above 173-hp engines and 3,000 hours for 173-hp engines and below."

"From a cost perspective, the addition of emissions technologies such as exhaust aftertreatment will incrementally increase up front purchase costs but diesel engines will remain the preferred source of mobile power for the foreseeable future. Customers of rental companies will need to utilize ultra low sulfur diesel (ULSD) in Interim Tier IV equipment much like on-highway trucks have been using since 2006."

 

[Country1]

Good info.
Thanks for posting.