jyoutz
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I don’t pay for water, just the electricity it costs to pump it. And when it’s time to replace the pump, that’s not cheap.
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It's the total which includes base rate for meter of $150 and same for sewer connection... making it $300 a quarter before the first drop flows...
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Guess I should not complain about my 2 hp pump feeding a 12000 gallon water tank on top of the ridge. Allows me to have 60 psi gravity fed and the pump runs once every week or so for a couple of hours. Also get to run my own sewage system. At least power outage have to last for days to affect water availability and I have generator set to handle that.
dirttoys
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I saw some old skunk works plans for a reactor that produced the the heat and power to de-sa a meaningful amount of water. With a side effect of several Mw of excess electricity. Just need to get nuclear power on the green list, opps, I think the EU is tracking that way already. I have been out west many many times. It is arguably the nicest part of the states, damn shame all those people are there........
Then for the best part, they can ship the salt to the Midwest to clear our streets (rust my cars)
All very simple really, would probably be wildly successful, and require little to no subsidy if we could manage the "can't hug your kids with nuclear arms" crowd, the epa, and the current administrations at the state and federal level.............
OR
They could suck themselves into ridiculous restrictions on a common natural resource, along with anyone near by with a little water and a lesser lawyer.
wonder which way we will go??
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Then for the best part, they can ship the salt to the Midwest to clear our streets (rust my cars)
All very simple really, would probably be wildly successful, and require little to no subsidy if we could manage the "can't hug your kids with nuclear arms" crowd, the epa, and the current administrations at the state and federal level.............
OR
They could suck themselves into ridiculous restrictions on a common natural resource, along with anyone near by with a little water and a lesser lawyer.
wonder which way we will go??
Best,
ed
jigs_n_fixtures
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Actually it is generated by savings from not having to develop and pump water, and build the infrastructure to do that.Maybe this?
Water Smart Landscapes Rebate
The Water Smart Landscapes Rebate helps property owners convert water-thirsty grass to desert landscaping.www.snwa.com
The SNWA, and LVVWD, are quasi-municipal entities, and get no tax dollars. The money they have is generated by treating, storing and selling potable water. And both of them have historically had some of the lowest rates per base gallon of any of the large water systems in the US.
They are some of the most efficient public entities in the nation. Which is kind of surprising, when you consider that the LVVWD, was formed by an emergency action, when the Las Vegas Water Company (a subsidiary of Union Pacific), went bankrupt, and the State had to step in and take it over.
Water purveyors in Clark County, have graduated rates based on your meter size, and the meter size is based on the number of bedrooms, and bathrooms, and the number of fixtures. A house, is three bedrooms, with two baths. If you build a McMansion, you pay a premium to increase the size of the meter. The rates above your base threshold, increase exponentially. So if you have great big, yard covered in grass it gets expensive fast. Some folks have lots of money, and don't mind paying.
jigs_n_fixtures
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Have you installed a fire hydrant near your buildings, and let your insurance company know it is there?
A freind moved to a very small town with no municipal water system, and thus no fire hydrants.. He ground the numbers, and he would save enough in four years to install a fire reservoir on the hill above his house, (it looked a whole lot like a swimming pool), and run a 4-inch line back down the hill, to a hydrant between his house and shop.
Then he figured out that if he donated a 3-bay metal garage, with an office to the local volunteer Fire Department, the insurance savings, and tax write off, paid that off in seven years.
He and the wife joined the volunteer Fire Department. So, if they had a fire at their place the response time was a few minutes.
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No hydrant but there is a 12 acre 25 foot deep pond at my front door. The feds have "borrowed" water from there via helicopter to fight wild fires. I'm 45 minutes from the nearest cop and over 30 from the nearest FD, pretty much have to manage ourselves to save anything. However the local FD and Federal wild fire team do great work containing wild fires, something handy when you live surrounded by millions of acres of trees.
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Those paying premium were for years subsidizing those using very little because once the infrastructure is in place the cost per gallon of water drops per gallon as the quantity increases.
Some wealthy with expansive lush landscape were paying exhorbtant monthly water bills and the community was outraged money could buy more water... the district explained they were underwriting the cost to all users.
One of my friends said water conservation outreach is a double edge sword... the obvious is in periods with abundant water the district has raised rates because people continue to use less...
The other thing he told me is the public becomes fanatical.
The district has a pressure station up in the hills and it would bleed off a little water from time to time... a few gallons in an hour...
The complaints got so bad with news crews it was a public relations problem so the district made a small dry well to conceal the bleed off water...