Snow Equipment Owning/Operating Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow

   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #11  
a 2wd needs weight on the rear, to get traction. A front blade needs a heavy tractor front to be able to push the snow aside.
I think the front of that 75 hp industrial tractor, with rear ballast, is as heavy as the unloaded 40 hp compact front end.

The local municipality uses a JD 7610 with rear drag, and front plough, for maintaining dirt and gravel roads.
I've seen them pushing themself into the ditch when they ride the front end on the blade. (they dont have a double acting front hitch, just floating) Instead of pushing material to the center of the road, they push themself into the ditch, even while steering opposed, with this 7 ton tractor.

Dont forget that a 40 hp compact, is of a totally different build style than a 75 hp industrial tractor.
The MF 50 will give you much more use in most conditions, much better lifting (so you can carry a FULL pallet of masonry stones that they unload from the truck by truck mounted crane, instead of having to load half of it to another pallet to be able to carry them)

If you were comparing FARM tractors of 40 hp 4wd and 75 hp 2wd, it might turn out to be quite equal.
But when comparing a 75 hp industrial tractor (generally heavier than farm tractors) to a 40 hp compact, you'll see they differ as much as a bull and a donkey, even if the industrial tractor lacks front wheel drive.
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #12  
jedon said:
Thanks for all the advice, the 50E is now $6K! It does have one small hydrolic leak near the front loader arm according to the owner. I'll go check it out tomorrow.

If that's all the leakage you find, no problem. FEL hydraulics are pretty simple and easy to work on (they're accessible). My MF-135 had a leaky pto shaft seal when I bought it. Still does. I'll get around to fixing it one of these days. The leak is small and doesn't cause a problem. Just remember to check fluid levels in your 50E before you start it. Top off as necessary.
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow
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#13  
The leak is said to be a gasket in the front left hydrolic cylinder. Owner said it was cheap to fix. I'm out to look at it tomorrow, $6K seems too good to pass up. :D
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #14  
Only thing I can add is 2wd requires the brakes to steer.. Be certain the brakes work well. I plowed snow the first year with an Allis Chalmers TLB 2wd and the brakes would heat and become worthless in 20 mins. Repair costs more than the machine is worth.

Weight is about 7500 lbs and will push snow like a freight train straight ahead - and slide off the road. Picking it up and back on the road just takes time with the loader/bh. Oh yeah add -15F and howling winds.

My ag tractor is MFWD cabbed with a 8' snow bucket on the front and a 7' (same as rear wheel spacing) 2 stage blower on the back. At least 11K lbs. Mother nature can still push back. With the heavy wet Spring snows the blower augers sometimes plug up smooth with snow and I end up pushing 20-30' snow back until the augers clear & snow again makes it to the fan and up the chute.

Snow clearing time with the TLB 6' bucket was 4 hours, time with the ag tractor is 45 mins.
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #15  
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow
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Well I got the 50E, it starts right up and runs great. It needs a brake fluid reservoir, some hoses replaced and a couple seals mended but it's hydrostatic so that makes it nice and easy for me to drive! It doesn't have PTOs so I'll need to find a hydraulic snowblower for it. I'll be keeping my eye out for a backhoe as well, right now it just has the super heavy duty gannon box and the 4-1 loader.
I also got a Max II AATV with tracks and a V snowplow for the tight areas.
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #17  
I'd say try a winter without the snowblower. Get a GOOD set of chains for all wheels and that machine will be unstoppable. . If you get stuck just pull yourself out with the back hoe if you get one. I have seen a 2WD 1970 JD that was about the same size as your machine and it was doing very well plowing snow (with bucket) in Maine. We had about a total of 12ft of snow here last winer. I'd say you made a good choice!
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow #18  
I actually prefer my 4 wheeler over my truck for plowing out the cemetery. As long as I don't let the snow get much over 18" the grizzly will push it, but over that it's time to break out the skid steer or the dump truck and plow.
 
   / Larger 2WD vs Smaller 4WD for plowing snow
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#19  
I got a MaxII 6x6 with tracks and a v-plow, maybe that will be the funnest way to plow!:cool:
 

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