Leaf Cleanup

/ Leaf Cleanup #21  
I'm, the other dealer in the Parma area, I feel it's wrong of you for these statements that you have been left on the site. I do NOT recall ever talking to you. Also I know that other dealers may at time NEED to sell their products that they are paying interest on & therefore they have a great price for purchase. I'm sure that your well aware of how to operate a dealership , that's why you can judge. I will tell you this I have been McCormick's Top selling dealer in the last 2 years in the USA. I suppose that's because of my lack of dealer experience or Sales, ability. I have decades of tractor knowledge & know my competitors product as well as or better then they do. As for Equipment there probably is not much out there that I have not personally used or have had experience with. Thanks for helping out my business & I wish you lick with your product.
Keith,let us talk about WRONG & RIGHT for a moment since you have decades of knowledge with regards to sales and service.How about YOU advertising NEW Kioti tractor prices on local craigslist(Kioti DS4110 41hp tractor & loader for $19,299)?Is this NOT AGAINEST kioti CORPORATE policy?Just curious?For those interested go to Jackson Michigan craigs list farm and garden section to view.I am sure you would not recall our phone conversation as you were VERY RUDE to me when we had it.I do recall it very well and that was my reason to seek out another Kioti dealer to purchase from.Hopefully KIOTI CORPORATE views this website also?No intent to hurt your sales and service,just my experience.
 
Last edited:
/ Leaf Cleanup #23  
Keith,let us talk about WRONG & RIGHT for a moment since you have decades of knowledge with regards to sales and service.How about YOU advertising NEW Kioti tractor prices on local craigslist(Kioti DS4110 41hp tractor & loader for $19,299)?Is this NOT AGAINEST kioti CORPORATE policy?Just curious?For those interested go to Jackson Michigan craigs list farm and garden section to view.I am sure you would not recall our phone conversation as you were VERY RUDE to me when we had it.I do recall it very well and that was my reason to seek out another Kioti dealer to purchase from.Hopefully KIOTI CORPORATE views this website also?No intent to hurt your sales and service,just my experience.

Well it has come out that you are up set because I would not play a see who can go the lowest price game. That's a good reason to bash me... As for the price on NEW Kiotis, I can do just what I did , I also sent it to my territory manager. I do represent my product well & refuse to give it away. I know what sells & I stock so that I do NOT have to pay interest on it. I manage my inventory so that I don't have to sell just over cost. Thanks again for buying a Kioti & I'm very glad you got it.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #24  
Well it has come out that you are up set because I would not play a see who can go the lowest price game. That's a good reason to bash me... As for the price on NEW Kiotis, I can do just what I did , I also sent it to my territory manager. I do represent my product well & refuse to give it away. I know what sells & I stock so that I do NOT have to pay interest on it. I manage my inventory so that I don't have to sell just over cost. Thanks again for buying a Kioti & I'm very glad you got it.
No bashing intended.Just stating the facts of my experience of dealing with you.Take care.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #26  
DR's lawn vac appears pretty nice. They just all seem sort of over priced!
I like that the Kubota does not need a separate motor, BUT really like having the "estate" hose for flower beds and such - seems only DR, CR offer them.... Cant seem to have it all.....
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #27  
I bought the Cyclone Rake and the quality is top notch. My impression was that Track Vac was a little lower in quality and price and Agri Fab even lower but they will all probably do the job.

Hi Kenny,

I have had a Trac Vac a long time - over 12 years - model 580 and Trac Vac and work it hard in the spring and fall with zero issues for 12 years. Trac Vac also make commercial machines too that are worked daily.

When I bought the Trac Vac, CR had one model the original, and the overall construction was not commercial grade, nor a hard sided box that was easy to dump and it just wasn't as well built overall.

I collect over 30 cubic yards of material annually with the Trac Vac with zero issues other than replacing the top vent screens once.

Now, in the recent years CR has improved and Trac Vac still make a broad range of vacs too but cater to more commercial grade machines.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #28  
What are you running your cyclone rake on? I was kicking around the idea of putting one on my Kubota BX25 for the fall leaf season. Did you get the duel wheel option or any of the HD hoses? Do you think that they are worth it?
Thanks
I have a Cyclone Rake Commercial Pro with the dual wheels and HD hoses. It works great for me.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #29  
DR's lawn vac appears pretty nice. They just all seem sort of over priced!
I like that the Kubota does not need a separate motor, BUT really like having the "estate" hose for flower beds and such - seems only DR, CR offer them.... Cant seem to have it all.....

I have the estate hose but never use it anymore. I find it is easier to use a handheld leaf blower to move the leaves out of the flower beds and then suck them up through the deck.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #30  
DR's lawn vac appears pretty nice. They just all seem sort of over priced!
I like that the Kubota does not need a separate motor, BUT really like having the "estate" hose for flower beds and such - seems only DR, CR offer them.... Cant seem to have it all.....

Here's what works for me. You can see by the list of toys I own that DR. equipment is a fairly large portion of the overall picture. My Scag Wildcat with 61" hi-velocity deck now does 90% of my overall grass cutting and gathering of clippings, etc. It came with a three bagger grass catcher and flip up hood that rides behind the ROPS, and big corrugated chute and belt driven paddle-wheel 'motor' that runs off the deck pulleys by separate belt.
Once installed it's not too bad to dump by lifting up each 12 bushel bag and dumping them into a pile. When the grass clippings/leaves/combo are wet or damp it becomes more of a chore. I've seen newer Scags with what looks like a dumpable from seat bagger that looks like less capacity and is probably all poly housing with no mesh netting bags like mine has. That would be a big improvement, IMHO.
My point is you can do well without yet another gas driven motor to have to run in addition to the mower itself; plus a big factor for me is breathing all the CO from two motors running at the same time, unless there is a fairly strong wind blowing to carry the CO away from me while operating the mower/bagger.

A separate (self propelled?) blower like Dr sells might work with less effort than a backpak blower leaf machine. I think it's worth considering the assembly and breakdown/storage of a huge mower attached leaf vacuum, as well as high initial cost. There is, as you stated no one item has/does it all machine. You might try renting a few of the commercial machines available to see what works then decide to buy what is closest to what suits your needs. Dr does have a trial period for some units and if you call the factory store sometimes they have units that were returned from trial that have same as new warranty for less $$.:confused3:
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #31  
I have the estate hose but never use it anymore. I find it is easier to use a handheld leaf blower to move the leaves out of the flower beds and then suck them up through the deck.

Interesting, that does make a lot of sense!

Coyote also makes a point about storing everything - it seems storage space is always at a premium anymore!

I normally blow all the leaves with a 3pt blower but also being able to pick up right around the house and get all the grass clipping would be nice. We are finally (starting) to try and make our field a yard!
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #32  
Like anything else you need to look at your own situation. I have a basement walkout area that is a leaf magnet. It's great to be able to back up to it, take the pickup hose and collect the leaves that are piled three feet deep at that point. However, if I have time, I dump them on the driveway and pick them up again with the mower (with gator blades) because it chops them up so much better for compost.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #33  
Comments about vac technique for lawn areas: At first, I blew leaves into piles and then tried to suck them up with the lawn-tractor/yard-vac (WRONG). Then I waited until all the leaves had fallen before sucking them up (WRONG). Both of these were big mistakes! These vac systems work best with a thin, layer of leaves, not deep piles. Deep leaves will pile up in front of the mower and also clog the flex hose unless you go very slow. I have found it best to run the vac several times each fall as soon as leaves are a few inches deep. This way, you can move at a reasonable speed without jamming the system, also the shredding action works well. If you need to blow leaves out of tight spaces, vac up the destination area first and then blow the leaves into it so they don't get too deep. All of these systems are noisy so wear ear protection. My vac is so loud that I can't tell if the mower is running except by letting out the clutch. Don't try to get the hopper too full or you'll have to unplug jams in the flex hose and/or the adapter where the hose connects to the mower deck. Expect to get covered with dust, especially if leaves are dry. Carry tools on board to disconnect the flex hose so you can unclog it; it's tiring to walk back to the barn every time. With experience clogs will be rare but they still happen (like when you try to get that last little patch before dumping). I have a large level area where I dump the mulched leaves; the nature of these things is that you end up with many small one-load piles. Use the tractor loader to push them into one large pile before you run out of dumping space. Check tire pressure before you start work; if pressure is low you'll pop off the bead when the hopper gets full and it stinks trying to re-seat the bead if the hopper is full (HEAVY). Storage may be a big concern or not (not a concern, in my case) so take Kenny's advice and consider the specifics of your situation.

I will say that the lawn vac was a lifesaver for me. Using a rake and a tarp, it literally took me weeks of part-time work to remove the leaves before they killed the grass. With the vac, I do the job in an afternoon and wet weather is much less of a concern (only need one dry day). Frankly, the best thing about these vacs is that the leaves are already condensed and in a trailer attached to you mower. My dump site is several hundred feet from my lawn so moving the leaves was actually the hardest part. Each year I end up with a leaf pile (much taller than me) and I keep the new, un-composed leave) separate. I use the inside of old composted leaf pile to mulch trees and bushes.
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #34  
Good info ritcheyvs - lots to think about. The posts are really good for people like me thinking about what they want. Gives a lot of different perspectives which is very helpful
 
/ Leaf Cleanup #35  
You might be able to find a Swisher leaf vac with a 50cuft dump trailer. One on ebay now for $750. What I have today is a Swisher brand leaf/lawn pull behind vacuum unit. It has a Briggs 8.75 torq/ 6 1/2 HP engine that runs great, pulls easy, and always starts on 1st or 2nd pull. It will suck up anything your mower deck can lift off the ground. The canopy top and frame can easily be removed without tools, to convert to a tilt bed trailer.
 

Marketplace Items

Freightliner Tender Truck - Adams Tender (A61307)
Freightliner...
2019 CATERPILLAR  XQ60 GENERATOR (A58214)
2019 CATERPILLAR...
2016 New Holland Boomer 47 (A60462)
2016 New Holland...
2016 FREIGHTLINER CASCADIA  125 6X4 T/A  DAY CAB TRUCK TRACTOR (A59906)
2016 FREIGHTLINER...
40' High Cube Multidoor Shipping Container (A60463)
40' High Cube...
1005 (A61166)
1005 (A61166)
 
Top