ADin
Silver Member
As my first post, I am trying to locate final information to solidify an 4110HST purchase decision.
Just a little background:
- 2.5 Acres (50-50 lawn/light woods)
- Half of woods is cleared of anything smaller than thumb and mowed about ~6-7 times per year.
- Currently own 2000 JD335 serving me quite well.
Expected Usage:
- I have approximately 15 triaxles of dirt to move this summer to fill mesquito breeding grounds and moving rip-raft(sp?) along a creek.
- I will also be doing extensive landscaping in the 1 acre yard planting trees, terraces, etc.
- I also help take care of ~3-4 acres of flat but quite rough mowing for my parents which is mowed ~3 times/year.
- Long term is mostly mowing, although if past is indicator of future, I will always find odd tasks to perform (mulching, snow, firewood, etc).
The reality is my 335 is probably all I really need, but between the need (both real and perceived), along with a long standing toy factor desire for a FEL, I have convinced myself (almost) to go forward.
As many before me I have agonized between the 2210, 4110, and 4115. Given that I'm still doubt regarding my true need to upgrade in the first place, the last thing I want to do is upgrade and not go large enough to do something I want to do in 5 years. At the same time I don't want to look silly mowing on something too large. This was my concern with the 4415, along with garage space, hauling trailer size, etc.
Questions are:
1) For transporting, I would be looking to get the absolute smallest trailer for hauling and really wanted to stay with a 5' x 8/9/10' trailer. I haven't studied the trailers recently, but I seem to recall some had a couple extra inches between the wheelwells and I was hoping a 60" deck would fit (this was a negative mark against the 2210's 62") especially with deck raised. Has anybody seen such trailers, or am I stuck going to a 6' wide trailer? Although, I know the weight is pushing it, does anyone here have experience hauling one of these beasts in an F150 shortbed?
2) The turning radius for the 4110 is listed as 7.5'. What does this coorespond to in terms of actual cutting radius with 60" deck or in relation to my current 335? The lawn has few obstacles at the moment, but mowing the woods is obviously different.
3) There are statements made on the forum that the 2210 has a marginally better mowing performance. Again, are they both comparible to cut on 335 or better/worse? Is the difference between 4110 and 2210 primarily related to deck design, blade speed, wheel base, or deck weight, or some nebulas combination of all?
4) There are comments made about the 4110 deck installation being more involved that on 2210. Is this simply due to weight or are there inherent design difference?
5) Is there a dB rating for the 4110? (e.g. 2210 listed at 86)?
6) I'm assuming that the 4410's larger tires will be less harsh on the lawn despite being a little heavier. Is this a correct assumption or are they so close it's a don't care?
7) I do have some slopes/ditches, etc. The 335 has no problems (tipping) although traction is occasionally an issue. I realize the 2210 is lower, but does anybody have data on approximate center of gravity for the 2210/4110 so I can extrapolate their cat-like skills?
8) I've seen references to 4P versus 6P tires on some threads and I've had issues with 335 versus hawthorn thorns. The hawthorn are quickly becoming extinct as a result. However, does anyone know the details on the 4110s tires regarding ply? Is there a choice?
9) I see talk of the 3000 series which seems to be replacing the larger 4000 series tractors. Anything on the horizon (<1 yr) regarding the 4010/4110/4115 models?
10) Any last thoughts to make me further doubt the 4110HST choice (either 2210, stay with 335, or other)?
Thanks for any help and sorry for the long post. The replies can be shorter...
BTW - I may have a 335, front blade, 54" mower for sale soon if anyone is interested
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ADin
Just a little background:
- 2.5 Acres (50-50 lawn/light woods)
- Half of woods is cleared of anything smaller than thumb and mowed about ~6-7 times per year.
- Currently own 2000 JD335 serving me quite well.
Expected Usage:
- I have approximately 15 triaxles of dirt to move this summer to fill mesquito breeding grounds and moving rip-raft(sp?) along a creek.
- I will also be doing extensive landscaping in the 1 acre yard planting trees, terraces, etc.
- I also help take care of ~3-4 acres of flat but quite rough mowing for my parents which is mowed ~3 times/year.
- Long term is mostly mowing, although if past is indicator of future, I will always find odd tasks to perform (mulching, snow, firewood, etc).
The reality is my 335 is probably all I really need, but between the need (both real and perceived), along with a long standing toy factor desire for a FEL, I have convinced myself (almost) to go forward.
As many before me I have agonized between the 2210, 4110, and 4115. Given that I'm still doubt regarding my true need to upgrade in the first place, the last thing I want to do is upgrade and not go large enough to do something I want to do in 5 years. At the same time I don't want to look silly mowing on something too large. This was my concern with the 4415, along with garage space, hauling trailer size, etc.
Questions are:
1) For transporting, I would be looking to get the absolute smallest trailer for hauling and really wanted to stay with a 5' x 8/9/10' trailer. I haven't studied the trailers recently, but I seem to recall some had a couple extra inches between the wheelwells and I was hoping a 60" deck would fit (this was a negative mark against the 2210's 62") especially with deck raised. Has anybody seen such trailers, or am I stuck going to a 6' wide trailer? Although, I know the weight is pushing it, does anyone here have experience hauling one of these beasts in an F150 shortbed?
2) The turning radius for the 4110 is listed as 7.5'. What does this coorespond to in terms of actual cutting radius with 60" deck or in relation to my current 335? The lawn has few obstacles at the moment, but mowing the woods is obviously different.
3) There are statements made on the forum that the 2210 has a marginally better mowing performance. Again, are they both comparible to cut on 335 or better/worse? Is the difference between 4110 and 2210 primarily related to deck design, blade speed, wheel base, or deck weight, or some nebulas combination of all?
4) There are comments made about the 4110 deck installation being more involved that on 2210. Is this simply due to weight or are there inherent design difference?
5) Is there a dB rating for the 4110? (e.g. 2210 listed at 86)?
6) I'm assuming that the 4410's larger tires will be less harsh on the lawn despite being a little heavier. Is this a correct assumption or are they so close it's a don't care?
7) I do have some slopes/ditches, etc. The 335 has no problems (tipping) although traction is occasionally an issue. I realize the 2210 is lower, but does anybody have data on approximate center of gravity for the 2210/4110 so I can extrapolate their cat-like skills?
8) I've seen references to 4P versus 6P tires on some threads and I've had issues with 335 versus hawthorn thorns. The hawthorn are quickly becoming extinct as a result. However, does anyone know the details on the 4110s tires regarding ply? Is there a choice?
9) I see talk of the 3000 series which seems to be replacing the larger 4000 series tractors. Anything on the horizon (<1 yr) regarding the 4010/4110/4115 models?
10) Any last thoughts to make me further doubt the 4110HST choice (either 2210, stay with 335, or other)?
Thanks for any help and sorry for the long post. The replies can be shorter...
BTW - I may have a 335, front blade, 54" mower for sale soon if anyone is interested
ADin