Letting the neighbor borrow your tractor...

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npaden

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Okay. I've never really been one to let people borrow my stuff. Well, I let people borrow my truck, trailers, tools, etc., but in the past my tractor and other motorized equipment have been tricky to operate and I never felt comfortable letting someone use them. I always offered to operate it for them.

So I have a neighbor that I've somewhat become friends with and after my last tractor broke he asked me if I would be interested in going into a partnership of some kind buying a replacement for it. He suggested working up a contract, etc. and splitting all the costs down the middle. I really didn't like the idea that much because I've owned my own tractor for the last 10 years and want my own tractor. I've been looking and found a great deal on a really nice tractor and got it this weekend.

The guy has owned his own tractor in the past when he lived in a different place and regularly borrows another tractor but he has to trailer it back and forth every time he borrows it and so he would prefer not to have to do that. I discussed various options on how to work it out and he seems like he would prefer to pay something for it rather than borrow it.

One thing I discussed was just charging a flat $25 per hour off the meter or something like that. Not sure I want to mess with keeping a log of the hours though.

He would be willing to sign a contract on who is responsible for repairs and maintenance or anything like that, he is more handy with that kind of thing than I am anyway.

He has already asked to borrow it to do some post hole digging tomorrow and for now I told him to just borrow it for free and he said he would go over it and grease all the zerks, check the fluids, etc. He has been borrowing my implements to use with the tractor he has been borrowing and I don't mind that, he has used my post hold digger more than I have. Last time he borrowed my box blade he graded my 1/2 mile long driveway since my tractor was broke at the time. He's in the process of building a new barn and house but he only has 2 acres and just doesn't really need his own tractor, especially once he has it all built.

I've owned a tractor for 10 years and over that time I put a whopping 326 hours on it so it's not like I am using it all the time or anything. It can go a month or more sometimes without even getting fired up.

All that lead in to just ask if anyone else has some type of arrangement like this.

Do you just do it on a handshake and go with it? That's what I'm leaning toward. I don't really need the money, my thought was kind of that if he has to pay for it he might not borrow it quite as often. He does have access to the other tractor so if he needs to use it and I'm already using it he could borrow that one.

Thoughts? Thanks, Nathan
 
   / Letting the neighbor borrow your tractor... #2  
I'm not the type of guy to lend my tractor out. If I did, it would be to a very few select few people. If you feel comfortable with him as a person, and an operator, and don't mind a few extra hours on the clock, I don't see why not. If he pays you back by means of maintenance, and favors, why not. I do know how you might feel though... I hate lending things out in general. It's a great way to sour a relationship.

Chris
 
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Okay. I've never really been one to let people borrow my stuff. Well, I let people borrow my truck, trailers, tools, etc., but in the past my tractor and other motorized equipment have been tricky to operate and I never felt comfortable letting someone use them. I always offered to operate it for them.

So I have a neighbor that I've somewhat become friends with and after my last tractor broke he asked me if I would be interested in going into a partnership of some kind buying a replacement for it. He suggested working up a contract, etc. and splitting all the costs down the middle. I really didn't like the idea that much because I've owned my own tractor for the last 10 years and want my own tractor. I've been looking and found a great deal on a really nice tractor and got it this weekend.

The guy has owned his own tractor in the past when he lived in a different place and regularly borrows another tractor but he has to trailer it back and forth every time he borrows it and so he would prefer not to have to do that. I discussed various options on how to work it out and he seems like he would prefer to pay something for it rather than borrow it.

One thing I discussed was just charging a flat $25 per hour off the meter or something like that. Not sure I want to mess with keeping a log of the hours though.

He would be willing to sign a contract on who is responsible for repairs and maintenance or anything like that, he is more handy with that kind of thing than I am anyway.

He has already asked to borrow it to do some post hole digging tomorrow and for now I told him to just borrow it for free and he said he would go over it and grease all the zerks, check the fluids, etc. He has been borrowing my implements to use with the tractor he has been borrowing and I don't mind that, he has used my post hold digger more than I have. Last time he borrowed my box blade he graded my 1/2 mile long driveway since my tractor was broke at the time. He's in the process of building a new barn and house but he only has 2 acres and just doesn't really need his own tractor, especially once he has it all built.

I've owned a tractor for 10 years and over that time I put a whopping 326 hours on it so it's not like I am using it all the time or anything. It can go a month or more sometimes without even getting fired up.

All that lead in to just ask if anyone else has some type of arrangement like this.

Do you just do it on a handshake and go with it? That's what I'm leaning toward. I don't really need the money, my thought was kind of that if he has to pay for it he might not borrow it quite as often. He does have access to the other tractor so if he needs to use it and I'm already using it he could borrow that one.

Thoughts? Thanks, Nathan

Collect the 25.00 and put in a jar for when he breaks it.
 
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I've been thinking about this a lot and was just talking about it with my wife.

One idea I just had was setting up an "implement fund" and charging him for the use of the tractor something along the lines of $25 an hour and putting that into the "implement fund". Once I had enough money in there I would buy an implement that would be useful for both of us or upgrade an implement. All my implements are Cat 1 and the new to me tractor is Cat 2 so I am already wanting a new rotary cutter and bigger disc. It wouldn't be near as painful to buy them if he was helping fund the purchase and on his part it wouldn't be so bad to be paying to use the tractor if he knew it was going toward upgrading the implements that he was going to get to borrow anyway.

This has never really been a "can I borrow your tractor?" arrangement, he approached me initially about going in 50/50 on a tractor, I'm the one that wasn't comfortable with that arrangement. He does seem very diligent as an operator, probably more so than myself.

While he is building his new barn/house he won't have a bunch of extra time to barter with and he would prefer to actually pay to use the tractor, I just wasn't really comfortable charging for it. With this new idea of an implement fund I think I can justify it.
 
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#5  
Collect the 25.00 and put in a jar for when he breaks it.

That's the only part I'm not sure of. He said that if he breaks something he will pay for it. He offered to put it in writing. On a tractor it is hard to say sometimes what caused it to break. Sometimes something can be wearing out for 100's of hours and then break at a random time. I would hate for a big $$ repair to just happen to occur when he was using in. Of course right now the tractor is in very good shape and hopefully it has a LOT of years before anything starts to break. I'm a little worried that will be accelerated by the extra hours on it, but I'm not sure he will be putting that many hours on it.
 
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He sounds like he would take care of things. I would probably accept his 50/50 deal.
 
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You have a big heart and sound like a good neighbor. Sure save your money but do not get mad when it breaks down as all machines do. I would not say what you are doing with the saved dough as not to get into "I bought that implement" deal. You never know stuff happens.
 
   / Letting the neighbor borrow your tractor... #8  
If it was me and I felt like he would not abuse the tractor I would just let him borrow it. From the way you describe him he sounds like the type of guy that would be very considerate and reasonable to work things out if something went wrong. I would go with my gut.

Having a good neighbor who feels like you have done him some favors is a good thing. Pay it forward - no charge!
 
   / Letting the neighbor borrow your tractor... #10  
Really?

Sounds like a great guy to have as a neighbor and friend. I have quite a few friends that trade, borrow stuff back and forth all the time. Break it, fix it , move on. Not that complicated.
 

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