LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ?

   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #1  

cyrusgh

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ontario, canada
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G3033 H, 8N
Hello All. Just bought at G3033 H.. with FEL and Backhoe.. If all goes well will have it delivered in Mid May.. cant wait.

This forum really helped with the decision making process.. so thank you all !

I have one last decision to make.. to load the tires or not.. to just use Calcium C or pay triple the price and fill them up with Beet Juice or maybe some sort of weight box on my hitch ?

My thoughts are this.. when the backhoe is attached.. I dont think I need the extra weight in the tires.

Without the backhoe.. from everything ive read.. seems that some additional weight is a must..

What are the thoughts out there.. do you think a removable weight box would be good enough ? Is BeetJuice worth the money ?


Any thoughts or comments would be most appreciated..

Thank you
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #2  
Yes without the BH, weight on the back is a must IF you plan on using the front loader.

You can get by without weight in the tires if you come up with something heavy for the back. And a 500# box blade on a tractor that size isnt what I call heavy.

Another thought, do you plan on trailering the unit around? If so, you may want to look at total weight and what you can haul. Filling the tires may put you over.

If you do fill, ask about windshield washer fluid. It is cheaper than beet juice, but not corrosive like calcium.

IF you hardly ever plan on taking the hoe off, and when you do it is only for mowing or whatnot that you can also remove the loader, there is no harm in not loading them.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #3  
Loading the tires is good for traction, but won't take weight off the front axle when using the FEL. It will help keep the rear tires on the ground, but you'll still be heavily loading the front axle, and not know it. With the BH on, you wouldn't need any kind of additional weight, but without it, you'll want something heavy on the 3pt...I'd want 750lbs or more on that machine. If you're using the loader (even just filling it with dirt), and you don't have anything on the 3pt, it's causing more wear and tear on the front axle that eventually somebody has to pay to fix.

I've had machines with, and without loaded tires, and I like to avoid it if possible. I definitely don't want calcium chloride, because it's so corrosive that a tire puncture normally means you've got to empty the tire, unmount the wheel, pull the tube, clean everything off, and then start over....pretty slow. With unloaded tired you can normally use a simple patch kit, plug the hole, pump it full of air, and be back in business in a few minutes. You have to do some of the same with beet juice, but it's not the emergency it is with CaCl.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #4  
I have the g3033 and I used 1 gallon of antifreeze per tire and filled the rest with water. I used the gimplers tool to fill them with water.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #5  
Since you have a Backhoe you want to load the tires for stability.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #6  
I think that beet juice is worth every penny you pay for it. It wont destroy your rims like chloride will. It wont destroy the land like chloride will and it is not hard on pets/farm animals feet either. IF you are around Barrie, ON there is a NH dealer there that will fill your tires for you for a price.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #7  
Definitely would. I did the Beet Juice on my own - it is not as difficult as you may think. If your dealer will sell it to you? It took me about 3hrs. including changing valve stems. If you have any questions PM me.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #8  
Use the beet juice, it's well worth the price over calcium, safer than calcium, anti freeze or washer fluid both for the ground and especially for any of your dogs or cats, it's freeze point is -35
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #9  
Yes on the Beet juice in the rears and have the right amount of weight on the 3PH when loading anything heavier then snow. The right amount is probably in the owners manual for the loader. Also consider having the tires set to a wide setting if yours has adjustable rims. This improves stability when you have a load up in the bucket.
 
   / LOAD THE TIRES OR NOT ? #10  
I paid $2.20 a gallon for beet juice where I live for my rears on my L3400. $30.00 for labor brought it to $145.00 total. A very low cost for safety and stability. Please check around each dealer for pricing. They vary greatly.
 

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