I was reading where someone said a loader made his tractor ride real bad, when he was cutting grass. I am thinking of buying a little bigger tractor, with a loader. Is this a bad idea? Because I use my tractor for cutting grass most of the time. But have some time, where I really would like to have a loader. I guess I could take it off, but that seems like a lot of extra work, and I'm old, and feel I have enough to do already. So should I think more on this, and maybe not get a loader????????
Loader bad?
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FleetMan
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I have an 1820D with Koyker 120 loader and have no ride or handling problems when using the brush hog or any other rear mounted attachment. The bucket comes in handy for pushing blackberry bushes out of the way when mowing some rough areas.
JerryG
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Dick,
If the loader is sized correctly for the tractor and the tractor has proper ballast, it shouldn't cause a ride problem.
If the loader is sized correctly for the tractor and the tractor has proper ballast, it shouldn't cause a ride problem.
buppy69
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You can always keep the tractor you have for mowing and get another for "dirty" work.
Eugene
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arthr31
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Dick,
I mow with a 5' finish mower on my 1601d which also has a loader on it... The only couple of things I can say about using the tractor with a loader for mowing is that you have to be careful about running into stuff in close quarters, and the loader makes the front kinda heavy which might cause the wheels to spin... When this happens, I switch to 4x4 until I'm outta the hill or slick spot. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal.. -art
I mow with a 5' finish mower on my 1601d which also has a loader on it... The only couple of things I can say about using the tractor with a loader for mowing is that you have to be careful about running into stuff in close quarters, and the loader makes the front kinda heavy which might cause the wheels to spin... When this happens, I switch to 4x4 until I'm outta the hill or slick spot. Otherwise, it's not that big of a deal.. -art
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You can always remove just the bucket which takes 3 minutes.
I have done that before & it does make a big difference.
I wouldnt let that loader issue hamper your purchase.
Most yanmars dont need power steering (small ones)
Take care E.
I have done that before & it does make a big difference.
I wouldnt let that loader issue hamper your purchase.
Most yanmars dont need power steering (small ones)
Take care E.
ym2610
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Hi Fleetman, does your Koyker have a quick disconnect or any body else, what I'm wondering is how easy is it to disconnect, koyker ads just say disconnect, it don't tell how or whats involved. Thanks Robert
FleetMan
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Robert,
I've got quick disconnects on my hydraulic lines. I guess an installer could save a few bucks by making solid connections but then you would have problems with open lines if you ever had to take it off.
I've got quick disconnects on my hydraulic lines. I guess an installer could save a few bucks by making solid connections but then you would have problems with open lines if you ever had to take it off.
ym2610
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have you every took your loader off, I mean the whole thing less brackets of course, if so how hard was that. Thanks again Robert
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Dick,
Get the loader-equipped tractor. Like others, you will likely say you don't know how you got along without it. It's like having someone there continually to lift all the heavy stuff for you. You will discover many uses that never ocurred to you before.
My loader has never been removed. The added length is a minor nuisance since I'm in an orchard where there are trees to run into while turning, but that's not a big problem. I could remove just the bucket since that's the outer corner when turning, but I never have.
I've found that ballast as far back as possible, not just at the rear axle, is how to counteract the weight of the loader so the tractor doesn't handle nose-heavy.
Get the loader-equipped tractor. Like others, you will likely say you don't know how you got along without it. It's like having someone there continually to lift all the heavy stuff for you. You will discover many uses that never ocurred to you before.
My loader has never been removed. The added length is a minor nuisance since I'm in an orchard where there are trees to run into while turning, but that's not a big problem. I could remove just the bucket since that's the outer corner when turning, but I never have.
I've found that ballast as far back as possible, not just at the rear axle, is how to counteract the weight of the loader so the tractor doesn't handle nose-heavy.
What I had in mind California, is I have a 6 foot scraper blade and have 3 of the 35 lbs suitcase weights from JD for the front of this one. So thought I would put the blade on and put the 105 lbs on it, and between the two, it would be enough. Of course when bush hoging, I would have the bush hog on it. I think that would work, anyway. Don't you think so?
FleetMan
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Robert,
I've never had mine off, haven't had a reason to do so at this point. However, the way mine was installed all I would have to do is "pop" a few quick disconnects and remove the appropriate pins. Nothing else would have to be undone, untied or disconnected. It is a very clean installation.
I've never had mine off, haven't had a reason to do so at this point. However, the way mine was installed all I would have to do is "pop" a few quick disconnects and remove the appropriate pins. Nothing else would have to be undone, untied or disconnected. It is a very clean installation.
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Depending on how your machine is plumbed you may have to loop the "in and "out" connectors to the FEL to avoid damage to the pump when disconnected.
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That sounds good. It took me some time to realize what everyone had written before - if I used the loader with no implement on the back, it steered hard (no PS) and could bury the front tires in ruts crossing wet ground(2wd). I loaded the rear tires with water which added a lot of rollover stability and traction for pulling, but that didn't help the nose-heavy feeling.
As I learned what I was doing (and listened to others here), I decided to configure ballast like a teeter-totter, adding weight far back to lighten the front axle. I like the results.
Here's a recent post with a picture of added ballast I put on for a day of hauling gravel:
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Its hard to see in that picture but there are pier blocks chained on top of the box blade. Set up that way, the tractor steered well with a bucket of gravel and didn't slip on wet grass. For less extreme loads the BB is enough.
I think the blade and weights you described should work well for ballast.
That sounds good. It took me some time to realize what everyone had written before - if I used the loader with no implement on the back, it steered hard (no PS) and could bury the front tires in ruts crossing wet ground(2wd). I loaded the rear tires with water which added a lot of rollover stability and traction for pulling, but that didn't help the nose-heavy feeling.
As I learned what I was doing (and listened to others here), I decided to configure ballast like a teeter-totter, adding weight far back to lighten the front axle. I like the results.
Here's a recent post with a picture of added ballast I put on for a day of hauling gravel:
Link
Its hard to see in that picture but there are pier blocks chained on top of the box blade. Set up that way, the tractor steered well with a bucket of gravel and didn't slip on wet grass. For less extreme loads the BB is enough.
I think the blade and weights you described should work well for ballast.
ym2610
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Thanks Fleetman, thats what I was wondering. Robert
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