Loader still has down presure in "float" position??

   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position?? #1  

skyhook

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1996 Kubota L4200 GSTC,(sold) 1994 JCB 210S 4x4x4
Funniest thing, my massey 60 backhoe will not go into float.
The loader locks into float ok, but when I proceed to go forward,
the loader lifts the wheels off the ground.
If while in "float" and the throttle is raised in neutral,
it will not raise the loader.
I've adjusted the cable to ensure the piston is fully out of the spool,
it locks fine but will not float.
It does seem to float better in reverse:confused:
Any ideas what would cause this would be appreciated.
 
   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position?? #2  
Based on your description I think your float is working correctly.

When going forward with the bucket down there is resistance. At some point that resistance gets to a point where its easier to pivot the tractor around the front end loader than to push the bucket. A lot of guys see this with loader snow plow attachments etc. Just a matter of it being easier to raise the wheels than it is to push the bucket forward. In reverse this does not happen because its just "dragging" the bucket not trying to "push" it.
 
   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position?? #3  
Sounds to me that loader valve is in float but forward motion causes bucket to dig in therefore raising frt wheels off ground from the forward motion. On any surface except concrete one must go backwards while in float but not forward unless cutting edge of bucket is above level.
 
   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position?? #4  
If you want to know if the lift arms are in float, then just raise the loader high and shove the lever into float and remove hands from lever.

If the lift arms fall on their own, the lift arms are in float.
 
   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position?? #5  
Sounds fine to me. as others said, float dont work in forward. The tractor is trying to "drive up over" the loader. Alot of it is cause the loader arms are mounted up so high. Draw a straight line from the bucket to where your rear loader arm connects. Thats basically the effective angle of the push. Its easy to see how the loader being on the ground, even in float, pushes UP on the tractor, and thus the front wheels come up.

And the fact that everything works fine in reverse, AND it dont lift the front wheels until you start going forward, is clear indication that you are NOT under power when in float, and its fine.
 
   / Loader still has down presure in "float" position??
  • Thread Starter
#6  
Thanks for the great advice, guys:thumbsup:
Yes, JJ, when float is engaged, and i let go of the lever, it does drop on it's own.
I was trying this on a gravel road, wanted to see if I could "float" the loader forward to do
snow in the winter, guess not...
Unless as stated by "Tx Jim" your pushing on concrete.
Thanks again, luckly, I have my L4200 with a blade in front,
hope this will do better in float.
 

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