Looking at upgrading

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MESSMAKER

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DK4710SE
My Bobcat tractor has been giving me some tough love so I am considering a replacement. Here is what I have looked at
LS XG3135 $17900
LS xg3140 $18,900
TYM t394hst $19,500
TYM354hst $20,999
Kubota3301hst $20,490
NH Workmaster35 $19,300

All these are outfitted about the same and are new with warranty. They all will do the job. I have dealer for all nearby. The Kubota dealer is a bit of an unknown but the rest have been around for years. What do you like?
 
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id probably go with the tym394 and hst, i woudl probably go with the 3140 but its not hst it doesnt look like or the w/m35 i like the hydros
 
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id probably go with the tym394 and hst, i woudl probably go with the 3140 but its not hst it doesnt look like or the w/m35 i like the hydros

Sorry for the confusion. They are all hydro units with a loader.
 
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I would probably go with either the Kubota or the New Holland if you plan on selling at any time. You'll get back the extra money that they get for them when it comes time to resell. They will also probably sell quicker then a perceived off brand such as LS or TYM (yes I understand that both are fairly good-sized brands and are well-established. Just saying that your average person looking for a tractor would be more comfortable buying a used Kubota or New Holland than a used LS or a TYM).

Aaron Z
 
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Not sure if you know, but the NH workmaster 35 is the same tractor as the LS xg3135... Look at the tag/plate on the workmaster...it shows LS Mtron as the manufacturer. Just a different shade of blue and different decals...
 
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My Bobcat tractor has been giving me some tough love so I am considering a replacement. Here is what I have looked at
LS XG3135 $17900
LS xg3140 $18,900
TYM t394hst $19,500
TYM354hst $20,999
Kubota3301hst $20,490
NH Workmaster35 $19,300

All these are outfitted about the same and are new with warranty. They all will do the job. I have dealer for all nearby. The Kubota dealer is a bit of an unknown but the rest have been around for years. What do you like?

I'd say the first thing is to ignore the prices. Compared to what you want the tool to do, those prices are all so close that they simply don't make any difference.

Secondly, I'd go and at least sit on them. When I made up a list like yours years ago I found that one brand was more comfortable for me to sit on and work the controls than any tractor I'd ever operated. Another (had been my favorite brand) was so uncomfortable that I immediately struck it off the list.

And then I like to walk around the machine and see how well the manufacturer has anticipated routine servicing. How easy are the filters to access, the lubrication points, the oil changes. Can I get to the battery? Is the tool box handy? Is it easy to refuel?

Does the seat adjust?? It had sure better do so!

How convenient is it to lock/unlock the parking brakes? That's something often overlooked by designers, but never overlooked by someone who has actually operated a tractor. Do the 3pt arms telescope? Do the 3pt lift links have a handle to adjust or require tools? Convenient 3pt operation and adjustment is another thing that you only learn to value after doing it awhile.

Look with an eye to how it will weather. Is the dashboard & it's electronics protected against occassional rainshowers? Do the hydraulic hoses have that mesh over them that protects them from the sun? Is anything leaking? How is the finish? Are their anti-scuff areas and rubber mats where you are bound to wear the paint? Is there some finish or protection down underneath where tractors tend to build rust?

Now look underneath. A tractor has to be able to run over the the occassional rock or tree stump without taking damage. Are things well tucked up out of the way? Do vulnerable areas have some protection?

None of these are critical in themselves, and they are the kind of things that cost the manufacturer very little or nothing at all. But they are all the kinds of small details that tell a lot about the quality of things that you cannot see so easily.

Now run it around a bit. These are all hydrostats, so they share similarities. I've noticed that some HST make a definite whine while others do not. I prefer the ones that don't whine.... And BTW, just because the transmission is HST doesn't mean that the transmission can't have plenty of ranges to make it work better and ease the load on transmission and engine. Range shifting itself seems to vary from fingertip ease to levers that require back and shoulder force,

And the engine....all seem good to me. I kinda judge by how it sounds. Unscientific, but so are most of my decisions that have worked out well..... AND don't forget to have fun with the tractor search.
rScotty
 
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What rScotty said. A couple tractors eliminated themselves because I wasn't comfortable when I test drove them. Another important thing for me is how the FEL operates. The test for me is to see if I can raise the bucket while keeping it level.
 
   / Looking at upgrading #8  
My Bobcat tractor has been giving me some tough love so I am considering a replacement. Here is what I have looked at
LS XG3135 $17900
LS xg3140 $18,900
TYM t394hst $19,500
TYM354hst $20,999
Kubota3301hst $20,490
NH Workmaster35 $19,300

All these are outfitted about the same and are new with warranty. They all will do the job. I have dealer for all nearby. The Kubota dealer is a bit of an unknown but the rest have been around for years. What do you like?

Those are close enough that it really comes down to which one you feel more at home on. It appears that you can get just a bit more tractor with LS than going NH, but then parts will be faster to get through NH. You are pretty much weighing dealers between those two. Other than that, is there any difference in how they are equipped? More remotes, extending lift arms, etc...? Looks like you are getting some good pricing any way you go.
 
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Tested out the Workmaster and did not like it much. I guess that rules out the LS as well. I drove the Kubota 3301 and liked it quite a bit, but the hst had a very very loud squeal.Will that become quieter after it breaks in? My current tractor is quiet most of the time.
 
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Checked out Kioti CK3510 and DK4710se. Both were fantastic. Leaning toward the DK.
 

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