LS FEL lift capacities seem higher than most.

[KiwiBro]

It's a bad habit of mine to covet that which I either can't afford or is not available to us here in New Zealand. Doesn't stop me learning about LS tractors in the 50-70HP range though. The specs I read seem to almost always put the FEL lift capacity of LS considerably higher than similar HP tractors.

Has anyone else noticed this? Is it one of LS's main points of difference? Can the front ends hold up to the higher FEL capacities without falling to bits? Are the front hubs, axles, castings, casings, joints, etc engineered to take this, and the rear ends to handle any additional rear ballast needed?

Anyone regularly pushing the limits of their LS FEL over rough ground?

Thanks.

 

[antlers125]

From personal observation on my J2023 the FEL is much more heavier built than any of the competitors I looked at.

 

[Raised on a Deere]

From personal observation on my J2023 the FEL is much more heavier built than any of the competitors I looked at.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the lift height being lower. I was ready to purchase the r4046 when one of the members here pointed out the lift height question. Sure enough it is almost a foot shorter than some others, and just by my hesitation on that one fact I kept shopping and ran into another deal on a Yanmar Lx490 with power reverser.

The lower lift height could be a result of favoring lift capacity over height. Just don't get bit on the lift height question. If The LS has the lift height you need then the extra lift capacity would be a good thing. For what I do the lift height would have been a sad discovery after the purchase. I frequently benefit from the high lift of the Yanmar as well as on the Branson.

 

[GManBart]

The typically lower lift height certainly will make their lift capacity look better on paper. My R4047 had plenty of lift capacity, but I struggled to load 30cu yard dumpsters, and my neighbor's small dump truck...it was possible, just not easy. That was the only thing I didn't like about the machine.

 

[KiwiBro]

Here's a few loader specs for the approx' 70HP models of a few brands.

Kubota
M7040SU (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height at pins)
- LA1153 loader - 2469/2928, 132.7/117.2 (two different loader positions - one for height one for power)
*note the same LA1153 loader but listed in their general M-series brochure does not list capacities at pins, rather center of bucket.


Kioti
RX6620/7320 (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height at pins)
- KL7320 loader - 3384, 133.9


JD
E-series (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height - brochure doesn't say if to pins)
- 512 loader - 2453, 114
- 553 loader - 3161, 122
- H240NSL loader - 3549, 132
- H240MSL loader - 2606, 131


LS
P7010 (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height - brochure doesn't say if to pins)
- LL7100 loader - 3500, 135
- LL7101 loader - 3500, 136.4

 

[Danny C]

Their loaders are stout! I think LS provides the best overall bang for your buck/value. That's why I bought mine. My 50520 with a LL5100 loader is rated for like 2400lbs. The picture is it lifting a skid weighing ~1900lbs (1800lbs of cement, plus pails & pallet)

 

[George2615]

I noticed that LS loaders do seem to have a greater lift capacity than most others. But I also noticed the 3 pt. lift cap. is less than others. For example:
My 26 HP Mahindra loader lift was about 1200 lb while the 3 pt. lift was 2200 lb (rounded off)
My LS XR3037HC loader lift is 2182 lb. and the 3 pt. is only 1808 lb.
Most every other tractor I have seen or owned the 3 pt. could always lift more than the loader. I haven't tried to lift that much on the 3 pt but 1808 seems low to me for a 37 HP tractor.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Here's a few loader specs for the approx' 70HP models of a few brands.

Kubota
M7040SU (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height at pins)
- LA1153 loader - 2469/2928, 132.7/117.2 (two different loader positions - one for height one for power)
*note the same LA1153 loader but listed in their general M-series brochure does not list capacities at pins, rather center of bucket.


Kioti
RX6620/7320 (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height at pins)
- KL7320 loader - 3384, 133.9


JD
E-series (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height - brochure doesn't say if to pins)
- 512 loader - 2453, 114
- 553 loader - 3161, 122
- H240NSL loader - 3549, 132
- H240MSL loader - 2606, 131


LS
P7010 (lbs at pins to full height at pins, " max height - brochure doesn't say if to pins)
- LL7100 loader - 3500, 135
- LL7101 loader - 3500, 136.4

One thing to note on the JD'S I have a 563 loader on my 5083E and it's much stronger than the 553.

 

[charles todd]

I can say that the LS P7010C loader is a BEAST. It is rated 3500 lbs. I have lifted full pallets of corn (2000+ lb) and some concrete pilings (I calculated about 2600+ lbs). It lifted both without a whimper. Without ballast or anything on the 3 point it was LIGHT! The loader capacity was one of the reasons that I was looking at Mahindra and LS. LS won out.

CT