Comparison LS-made Boomer 35 vs. LS R3039

DonaldWB · Mar 2, 2014

I see some posts that say that the LS is a better deal between the two because they're the same tractor but the LS has a stronger loader. The loader strength clear, but it's unclear that they are otherwise identical.

The difference that stands out is total weight. The Boomer is 3200# but the LS R3039 is 2780#. So are these really the same tractors, or does the LS version use less or cheaper metal? What else might account for the difference in reported weight?

Thanks for any replies. This is my first post, and I've learned a lot hanging out the past few weeks.

Donald

k0ua · Mar 2, 2014

From the NH website in the specs page for a boomer 35 I see weight as 2913 lbs with R4 tires. from the LS website I see the 3039 listed as 2780 lbs, tires not specified. a difference of 133 lbs. There are minor differences, but we are not sure what tires and wheels are spec'd for the LS.

DonaldWB · Mar 2, 2014

k0ua - thank you for that. I see that now. In the Boomer brochure and in the "Compare and Price" section of the NH website, it reports 3200# for the Boomer 35. So NH is reporting two different weights, probably measured in two different ways.

I noticed that something similar happens in their reported loader capacities. In the Boomer brochure it says 1370# capacity @ max height @ pins. In the technical specifications under the 240TL loader it says 1370# @1500mm from bucket pivot point. I think those are different ways to measure the capacity, so I think there is a mistake in one of these. I'm new at this, and probably wrong, though.

k0ua · Mar 2, 2014

DonaldWB said:
k0ua - thank you for that. I see that now. In the Boomer brochure and in the "Compare and Price" section of the NH website, it reports 3200# for the Boomer 35. So NH is reporting two different weights, probably measured in two different ways.

I noticed that something similar happens in their reported loader capacities. In the Boomer brochure it says 1370# capacity @ max height @ pins. In the technical specifications under the 240TL loader it says 1370# @1500mm from bucket pivot point. I think those are different ways to measure the capacity, so I think there is a mistake in one of these. I'm new at this, and probably wrong, though.

It is not uncommon for manufactures to put out conflicting informating. Especially hard numbers. It almost seems as if they want to confuse us to make it hard to make comparisons?. nah.. no-one would do that...

There may be small differences in the Boomer and LS machines, but overall they are the same machine. Another example was the Kioti and Bobcat lines.. There are small differences, and not just the paint color, but overall most of the parts are the same, it is just when a vendor in this case Bobcat specs their tractor from Daedong/Kioti, They request small changes to make it unique. I assume NH does the same with LS. They request some small changes to make it slightly different. One of course as you noted was the loaders.

Gary Fowler · Mar 2, 2014

133 pounds is easily accounted for in different tires and rims, full of fluids vs dry weight. I don't think the tractors would be any different with exception of possibly things like extra rear remotes that LS may have and NH doesn't. Seats may be different also which is add on stuff not the basic tractor.

GManBart · Mar 2, 2014

Aside from the FEL, the only differences I can recall were the headlights, and the grill (which might make slight changes to the hood for the different shape openings). If anything, the LS should have a heavier base weight, because they include extras like remotes, work lights, 7-pin trailer connector, etc, that the NH does. Even two different brand tires, of the same type/size could account for that weight difference, or empty versus full of fluids, but it could be something even simpler.

LS lists the base weight of the R3039 in both gear, and HST, as being 2,780, which pretty much has to be an oversight. The HST model should be heavier. NH lists the shipping weight with R4 tires as 2,913, but doesn't specify if it's gear or HST.

In short, we don't know whether they're talking gear or HST, and how they weighed them. Regardless, it's a safe bet that aside from headlights, grill, and FEL, they're the same machine.

DonaldWB · Mar 2, 2014

Yet more interesting observations about the reported numbers, thank you all. So I won't put too much weight on the reported weights.

Now it sort of makes why the NH salesman hasn't called me back to give me the new quote I asked for on the hydro version. In the same conversation I asked him about the differences between the LS version and the Boomer. He may already have written me off.