Tractor Sizing M59 VS full size backhoe.

[4570Man]

I'm dabbling in construction work. My current tractor was inadequate. I sold it and am about to buy a bigger machine. The uses will be light land clearing and pretty much all of the dirt moving required to build a house. A grapple is a must. A m59 loader is twice as strong as my tractor was and the backhoe is 3 times is strong, but it still falls a lot short of a full size. Any thoughts about both machines?

 

[mike69440]

I'm dabbling in construction work. My current tractor was inadequate. I sold it and am about to buy a bigger machine. The uses will be light land clearing and pretty much all of the dirt moving required to build a house. A grapple is a must. A m59 loader is twice as strong as my tractor was and the backhoe is 3 times is strong, but it still falls a lot short of a full size. Any thoughts about both machines?

Will you have a basement? if so Kubota TLB is not the best to dig one, especially with rocky soil with roots. 2-3 days with a 15-20ton excavator, and the TLB can handle the rest. Big basements are no fun even with Full Size BH. M59 is great for light land clearing and pretty much all of the other dirt moving, digging, grading on a house site/ farm etc. You can tow an M59 with a HD PU.

 

[4570Man]

I've got a 22k gooseneck and access to a duramax dually so I could manage the full size on short trips, but the M59 is definitely more manageable.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

If, and this is a HUGE if, are you only going to have a single machine? An industrial TLB will dig circles around an M59. Loader lifts 50%+ more weight, but that's all it is, a TLB. An M59 can have a 3pt hitch and there are many jobs simply accomplished better-faster using 3pt implements. If you are serious about this type of work, you really need to consider multiple machines. One machine simply cannot do everything well and quick. Time is money as well as customers want to see things getting done, not dragged out for longer periods of time.

If it were me and could only have one machine, I would pick the M59 over an industrial TLB.

Just my :2cents:

 

[EddieWalker]

From what I've seen on Kubota backhoe prices, it doesn't make sense to buy a little one when a full sized loader backhoe is the same or less money.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

From what I've seen on Kubota backhoe prices, it doesn't make sense to buy a little one when a full sized loader backhoe is the same or less money.

All depends on what it gets used for. If only for TLB uses, then you are correct and an industrial TLB is the way to go. But if he has tasks better performed with a 3pt hitch implement, (actual grading or bush hogging for examples) the industrial TLB is a waste.

 

[4570Man]

In the immediate future I can only afford one machine. I hope to own more later. I have access to other tractor, but they weigh less than half what the m59 tractor does.

 

[4570Man]

From what I've seen on Kubota backhoe prices, it doesn't make sense to buy a little one when a full sized loader backhoe is the same or less money.

If buying new you're correct, but I found a used M59 for $24,000 which was about what I was planning on spending on a full sized backhoe.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

In the immediate future I can only afford one machine. I hope to own more later. I have access to other tractor, but they weigh less than half what the m59 tractor does.

Not knowing what all you will be offering to do for people, but the better all around machine is the M59 IMO. If all you are going to do is TLB work, then why even bother considering the M59?

 

[4570Man]

Not knowing what all you will be offering to do for people, but the better all around machine is the M59 IMO. If all you are going to do is TLB work, then why even bother considering the M59?

Because it's more manageable to move around. The single biggest reason is loosing the SSQA on the front. If I didn't care about the grapple option I'd have a full size and never think twice.