Spreader manure tines

[marsiskut]

Hi all.
I have almost 9 hrs on my new Kubota L4330 hst. I just sold my old Ford 871 and it is indeed a new world now. My only problem is with the bucket. My old Ford had manure tines on the loader which were invaluable for picking up brush and logs. Does anyone know where I can purchase bolt in manure tines or just the plain tines so I can weld up some easy attachments for them. I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere on the web. Any help is much appreciated.

 

[beenthere]

Welcome to the TBN.
I did a search on "manure tines" (using the 'and' function) and came up with what you might be looking for.

tines

See pics by boiler74 on 6/9/04 at 11:39 pm

Hope this gives you some ideas.
I use my forks to move brush piles. They work great. For some instances, the tines might be better, but the forks keep me happy. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[leaddog]

use old car axles. You can buy them cheap at junk yards and they are very tough so they won't bend. Just cut off the bearing end and use a torch or plasma cutter to sharpen the end and they work very well. I used them to make a stone picker and they work great.
leaddog

 

[marsiskut]

Thanks, the picture by Boiler74 looks like what I am looking for, although I might need a bit beefier tine. I am having a hard time finding just where I can order these from.
I think the drive shaft might be a little too big for my application. I got lots of hits on my search for manure + tines (which worked much better than "manure tines") but also a lot of false hits. I continue to search, thanks for the advice.

 

[beenthere]

If putting tines on a bucket, with the potential for concentrated loads on the leading edge, consider if your bucket has the strength needed for those loads. The risk is a bent edge, and for some buckets just meant for material handling, the possibility is there. Bending them back straight seems much harder to do than bending them in the first place. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
So far, my heavy duty Deere bucket is withstanding everything I put to it, but a neighbors non-green tractor bucket, didn't hold up very well. He was prying out a stump with a root hooked in the center and was curling the bucket. Lots of forces to contend with.

 

[marsiskut]

Thanks, I just want to be able to lift brush and the often downed tree limbs. I don't have the room for another bucket (and no quick release) so I want to be able to take these tines on and off. The manure tines on my old Ford worked great but I did get some curling on the cutting edge, so your advice is well taken. Right now I can't lift a thing that doesn't fit in the bucket. I can always use chains to drag the logs but it's too much of the on and off the tractor thing and maneuvering them onto the brush pile is a problem. I've also looked at the toothbars but I don't think I can get far enough under the brush/limbs to lift them.

Just another beautiful day in paradise.

 

[leaddog]

I think you got my idea wrong. I said rear car axels not drive shafts. They are about 30in long and 1-1/4 thick with the tire flange on one end. Just cut the flange off and you have a heat treated TOUGH shaft that you can hardly bend. I used them for my stone bucket and I have REALLY pryed on them and haven't bent one yet. see pic.
leaddog

 

[marsiskut]

Hey leaddog,
You're right, I had it wrong. I see your picture and that is really close to what I want, I don't need as many tines but that just may be the ticket.
Thanks for the advice

 

[Boiler74]

Thought I would chime in, as I've already been a part of the discussion!! My JD tines are spring steel, and pretty beefy. I have bent them some, but they've seen a heck of a lotta' work. I probably bent them doing a little more than I should have. But the spring steel holds up really well. To straighten the really bent ones, I just slipped an old pipe over it, found a nice solid fence post, and bend away. I do have a heavy duty bucket, and haven't seen any bucket damage. But these things are great, and with the added grapple, it's a work horse.

I installed these myself, and you might want to have a couple of extra drill bits at hand, and some spray lube. Took a little over an hour.

Attached a pic.

J.

 

[beenthere]

Are they welded on or bolted on? Drilling, must be bolted on. Are they used parts reclaimed, or new pieces of spring steel, and what dimension?

Thanks
They look good as do the car axles.
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[MicroPilot]

@Leaddog: Whats the point of that contraption? Wouldn't the manure fall through?

Aren't these type of buckets also sometimes called rock rakes?

 

[Taylortractornut]

Really the manure tines are for mixed straw/hay and manure like in a stable or feed lot. Theres not many thing that will drive me crazy as loading compacted manure with straw with a straight edged bucket. The straw binds it all together You have what feels and looks like a whole bucket full when you pick it up the binding staw wants to pull it out. Tines just break it up and support the sraw and manure. The best way to explain it try to vel course wood chips out of a pile with a scoop or shovel then use a pich fork the tines go deeper with less resistance then it acts like a cradle. I have an old remount Manure scoop from an 8N that has tines hooked the a back plate the plate is sorta concaved and to tines support the load well. It has a slip on plate for sand handling.

 

[leaddog]

Yes the bucket in my pic is a rock bucket. I was just trying to show how I used the car axels for tines. By the way car axels work very good for bale spears. I also used to use them to stake my sled dogs out on chains. I left the bearing retainer on and hooked the chain to that and that made a very good swivel for the chain. We would drive it into the ground with a sledge and it would hold fast and if you wanted to move it you could easily pull it up. They work good for altypes of stakes. The trouble is rear drive cars are a thing of the past so they are getting harder to find and with scrap prices they will soon disapear.
leaddog

 

[Boiler74]

I can't say if the tines are new steel or recycled. You'd have to ask JD that. They were new to me. As for the dimensions, from memory the tines stick out about 13 inches. Of course, that is from my bucket, not yours.

J.

 

[marsiskut]

Where did you get the tines you installed? Are they from John Deere or did you fabricate them from something?

 

[Boiler74]

They're from John Deere. I can't remember exactly, but they're in the $200 range when I bought the tractor. With steel prices right now, who know's how much they are. The do have a little curve at the end to match the inside of the bucket, so I don't know if they'll work with your bucket. I would suggest going to your local JD dealer and order just one, and see if it will work. Then you can just order as many as you want. I have 7 across a 6' bucket. JD wanted me to put 9, but I thought that would make it harder to pick up brush.

J.

 

[marsiskut]

Thanks everyone for your input, looks like this needs to fabricated at home. Pre-made single tines seem to be very hard to find. Now all I need is a welder along with about a hundred other items and a bucket-o-money. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif