MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak

   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak #1  

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Simple problem that up to now is not proving simple to resolve. Once the engine gets warm and I work it a bit oil leaks from the rocker cover gasket. Not much, but messy and irritating... and unnecessary!
1976 MF135 Perkins 3.152 diesel as per....
Tractor is new to me a few weeks.
I thought I had found the cause (the original gasket was not fitted properly and had a couple of bows in it), cleaned up the cover and head, wiped with thinner, new gasket with Curil-T sealer on either side. I noted the rocker cover joint had several lips so I assumed these were to allow the correct gasket thickness when they touched the head, so I tightened the two cap nuts until they just did...... and still it pi$$ed out; worse than before if anything and in the same place (just above the inlet manifold, next to the push-rods, towards the front half)

Thought the breather pipe or cover connection might be blocked (but they aren't), so bonnet/tank off again, clean up again, and try a more 'aggressive' sealant (Wellseal), and more care to ensure the gasket sat straight and square. Same tightening technique ..... and the same end result. I have run the engine with the breather pipe off and there is no pressure at all in the cover.

I did note the PO had used silicone sealant on the original gasket, and that's usually sign someone has had a problem before.

I can only conclude the rocker cover is twisted/warped/bent in that segment, though nothing too obvious - so I have ordered a new cover and another new gasket.

Two questions of the learned:

1. What gasket sealant do you use/recommend? (I used to only use a bit of grease, and have never had such grief with a rocker cover before. I used Curil-T because its gentle, never really sets and is fuel/oil resistant)
2. Any other tips/observations/advice for the next time?

... because this is starting to pi$$ me off. Mind I can now get the bonnet & fuel tank off in about 15 minutes!
 
   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak #2  
G'day new gasket and some rtv silicone sealant (any of the well known brands) and screw it back together, I see this a bit when covers get abused over the years and this is the most successful way I have found with dealing with them.



Jon
 
   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak
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#3  
Thanks Jon.
Given there was not lots of replies after 100 views I did a bit (a lot!) of Googling and there seems to be a very strong lobby these days NOT to use RTV silicone anywhere in contact with the engine internals - the excess can get drawn into oil galleries and block them. If you can spread it thinly enough to avoid this, then OK, but best advice seems to be not use it.
Recommended procedure these days seems to be contact adhesive (yes!) or similar to stick the gasket to the cover, then either dry, or a thin smear of Vaseline (yes!) on the mating surface. Very light torque on the cover bolts - just enough to hold the cork firmly against the head.

We'll see when the new cover and gasket arrive! I'll let you know ....

Mick
 
   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak
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#4  
Well the new gasket and rocker cover came in the post at lunchtime. Fitted them as I said above and it appears to have worked. Gave the tractor a hard work-out for an hour with the flail mower and no leak at all. Previously it would have leaked pretty much straight away.
Careful examination of the old cover on a thick flat section of steel reveals it does indeed live up to its name and 'rock' sightly. In fact it looks more twisted than just bowed down in the middle. Really should have checked this right at the start!
Anyway I hope that's it sorted.
 
   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak #5  
Hi, you may have chosen the best remedy in renewing the cover as well as gasket. I've seen so many times the cover has distorted after some relative of Arnold Schwartznegger has tightened the central bolts down. Alternatively, a sheet of coarse wet&dry on a glass plate will slowly make it a flat surface again - that will also enable it to seal again.
 
   / MF135 Rocker cover gasket leak #6  
G'day glad to see you got it sorted yes I have seen forum talks about not using rtv but like everything if used properly you will not have any trouble it's those that think half a tube is need to seal it up are the one who have trouble and the next thing nowadays is it is all over the net

Jon
 

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