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TresCrows

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Please, I know this is a touchy subject!! I am not asking for pros and cons as that will get us all in a bevy! I was just wondering how many of you use it in your tractors, Kubotas in particular, how many hours etc. If you use Mobil 1 or have experiance with it in Kubotas let us know and how has it done for you and if you do not use Mobil 1 then there is no reason to respond unless just want to--just do not want to start another oil war. J
 
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Excellent question, and one I lacked the courage to post /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif. I use it in my little Honda, and in the Pathfinder (289,000 miles), both gas engines, but it's also rated for diesels.

Sure would be nice to buy just one type of oil...

Pete
 
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Somebody go get their Kubota manual (haven't bought mine yet or I would already have looked this up) to see what the API requirements for engine lube are.


Here are the specs on Mobil 1:

The Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Series synthetic, detergent-dispersant oils are designed for passenger car and light truck gasoline or diesel engines requiring API Service SJ, SH or CF. Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Formula 0W-30, Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Formula 5W-30, and Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Formula 10W-30 also meet ILSAC GF-2 (Starburst Certification Mark). Depending on the viscosity grade, Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Series motor oils meet or exceed the requirements of all major automobile manufacturers, including General Motors GM4718M and Ford WSS-M2C153-G. The Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic Series lubricants meet or exceed the more demanding European ACEA requirements and Japanese valve train wear requirements.



and for Delvac 1 Diesel oil:

Mobil Delvac 1 has long drain capability and can be extended in service far beyond the builder recommended drain interval in both diesel and gasoline engines. Consult your Mobil representative for specific recommendations.
Mobil Delvac 1 will provide outstanding wear protection and deposit control in the most demanding diesel engines of Cummins, Caterpillar, Mack, Navistar, Detroit Diesel, and others. It is balanced to provide optimum engine life until overhaul, in both high-loaded, thermally stressed diesel engines and units operating at lower speeds in pickup-and-delivery service.

Mobil Delvac 1 exceeds the requirements of:

API CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF, SJ, SH
Mack EO-M Plus, EO-M, EO-L Plus
Cummins CES 20076, CES 20071
Detroit Diesel 7SE270
Caterpillar deposit performance
2.0% distillation at 700°F



The only Diesel spec that Mobil 1 meets is CF which is an offroad high-sulfer specification. Many manufacturers of modern Diesels require CG-4 or CH-4 (and sometimes additional certifications) to meet warranty and emissions requirements--don't know if Kubota is one of them but they do a lot of bragging about their CARB compliance which many of the small Diesels don't have.

The API info is here if anyone's interested.
 
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<font color=blue>Somebody go get their Kubota manual (haven't bought mine yet or I would already have looked this up) to see what the API requirements for engine lube are.</font color=blue>

Unfortunately, Kubota has been behind in updating their manuals. My 1999 manual still called for CC/CD ratings, which are so old I don't guess you can even find oil anymore with them.

Bird
 
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Here's your API spec's:{from API site}
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American Petroleum Institute


A Guide to the API Engine Oil Licensing and Certification System

Performance
Levels
(continued)

CH-4 - To be introduced in the API Service Symbol on December 1, 1998, CH-4 oils are suitable for high-speed, four-stroke diesel engines designed to meet 1998 exhaust emission standards and are specifically compounded for use with diesel fuels ranging in sulfur content up to 0.5% weight. CH-4 oils are superior in performance to those meeting API CF-4 and API CG-4 and can effectively lubricate engines calling for those API Service Categories.
CF - CF oils are suitable for off-road, indirect-injected diesel engines and other diesel engines using fuel with higher sulfur content, typically over 0.5% weight. Oils meeting this category were introduced in 1994 and can be used in engines requiring CD oils.
CF-2 - CF-2 oils are suitable for severe-duty, two-stroke-cycle diesel engines. Oils meeting this category were introduced in 1994 and can be used in engines requiring CD-II oils.
CF-4 - CF-4 oils are suitable for high-speed, four-stroke, naturally aspirated and turbocharged diesel engines.
CG-4 - CG-4 oils are suitable for severe-duty, high-speed, four-stroke diesel engines used in highway and off-road applications where fuel sulfur content is less than 0.5% weight. Oils meeting this category are required for engines meeting 1994 emission standards. They can be used in engines requiring CF-4 oils and previous categories.
For reference, all of the service categories that were ever issued are listed in this guide under API Service Categories. Any of the service categories may be used on the container outside of the API Service Symbol to indicate the performance qualities of the oil. However, only those currently licensed (see above) by API can appear inside the API Service Symbol. Keep in mind two facts about a service category designation that appears outside of the API Service Symbol: (1) by law, the actual contents of the container must meet all the specifications claimed for it; and (2) the marketer may not have certified to API that the oil meets these specifications.


SAE
Viscosity
Grade





The center of the API Service Symbol shows the oil's SAE viscosity grade. Viscosity is a measure of an oil's flow characteristics, or thickness, at certain temperatures.
The low-temperature viscosity (the first number, 5W or 10W, in the examples to the left) indicates how quickly an engine will crank in winter and how well the oil will flow to lubricate critical engine parts at low temperature. The lower the number the more easily the engine will start in cold weather.

The high-temperature viscosity (the second number, 30, in the examples to the left) provides thickness, or body, for good lubrication at operating temperatures.

A multigrade oil (for example, SAE 5W-30) provides good flow capability for cold weather but still retains thickness for high-temperature lubrication.

A single grade oil (a single number in the center of the API Service Symbol) is recommended for use under a much narrower set of temperature conditions than multigrade oils.

Operators should refer to their owners' manuals to select the proper viscosity oil for the ambient temperature and operating conditions at which the equipment will be used.

© 1995-2000, American Petroleum Institute

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3 crows, its funny that you think there is an oil war, I have thought of them as highly spirited conversation by a bunch of folks who really ought to spend more time with their dogs. What I am trying to say is that I'm so bored anymore with this topic in particular since all you can go by is what the product manufactuers publish. Amsoil information shows why they think Mobil 1 synthetics aren't all they could be. I doubt seriously that any problems exist with Mobil 1 or for that matter Delo 400, Rottella, Delvac, Valvoline Fleet, etc., I also doubt that any single one of us will ever know the difference between any single one, especially in a blind taste test. Point is, use 15W40 with the correct SAE rating in your diesel and you will be good, especially if it is turbo charged. Think about the thousands of hours construction companies put on their tractors and the torturous conditions they are put through. My company uses Delo 400 because it is readily available, the tractors have never been rebuilt engine wise. If you feel Mobil 1 tri-synthetic is best, I whole heartedly recommend its use providing it has the correct SAE rating. Diesel engines haven't changed all that much contrary to what I've seen on this board, the thing that has changed is the injection mechanics. Oils have changed alot in the last 20 yrs, if anything they have only gotten better, best of luck with your tractoring, and oh yeah, go take the dogs or kids for a big walk. Rat...
 
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I looked in the 2000 Grand L owners manual, Engine oil spec is CC or CD 10W-30, 10W-40 and single Viscosity 10W, 20 and 30 weight oils. Depending on the temperature. The Workshop Manual also lists CC or CD. The Suppliment for the L4610 also lists CC or CD oil.

Just so you know, I DO keep a copy of the Owners Manual AND Workshop Manual by the computer. How else can I keep up with you guys?

I use Mobil 1 in my truck, but I am not yet to the point of needing to change the tractor oil. When I do, it will probably be with Mobil 1 10W-30. I am also investigating Mobil 1 hyrdraulic fluid. I don't knock the other brands of sythetic oils (or Dino-juice). I don't have a retail supply of them, but I can get the Mobil products locally and that means something to me personally. If there was a local Amsoil person, I would probably use them.

I did flush and fill my Chevy truck with Mobil 1 ATF this year. I could tell that the cold weather performance was much smoother. I don't yet know what the hot weather towing performance will be like, but I hope it's good!
 
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Rat, The thing about the oil discussions that I find the most ammusing are the statements like "I will put nothing but the best in my engine". I would be willing to bet that most the people making that kind of statement eat junk food or other food that is far from the best thing for their body. After all the human body and a tractor are both machines. What does it say when their tractor or truck engine is held in higher regard than their own body?

Andy
 
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Rat, the "oil war" is just as it appears--it seems you have taken offense at my query to Mobil 1 users. Clearly my post was intended as so stated I was requesting info from Mobil 1 users only and not opinions from non-users--which it seems is what I got of my question. My reasoning and similar to the second post on this thread is that I would like to purchase only one type of oil for all my vehicles except for my airplane. It would make shopping easier and I would not always be trying to remember what goes in which. Since you are bored with the subject--that is understandable--why did you respond with your opinion when clearly I asked for users comments--those who use Mobil 1 in their Kubotas. Thank for your opinion anyway but I could say I am bored with opinions but I will not. By the way, the Kubota manual for my BX states the defunct and no longer applicable CD rating which according to the Mobil rep and literature is exceeded by CF. Our Kubota tractor engines are not Catapiller engines, they are neither high speed nor two stroke nor heavily loaded and operated normally are not under that much stress--My opinion. I have long experience with Mobil 1 including my little Toyota with more than 300,000 miles--original. It currently uses about one quart of Mobil 1 in 5000 miles. Take care, life is to short to be bored with oil wars. Meanwhile any info from Mobil 1 users is appreciated--you may respond to my e-mail rather than pollute the site if that seems most appropriate. Thanks, peace and love. J
 
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Andy, what I find amusing are people who make assumptions about people who they do not know, have never seen or met and cannot possibly know what is in their hearts/minds much less in their palate. Your response added nothing of value and was perhaps a touch insulting, course neither does this one so we are even. "Best" is an undefineable term like long lasting or lifetime warranty and so we have to choose what is right for our own situations, coming from a scientific background I was seeking data not opinion. J
 

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