Moral/legal obligations

[Jstpssng]

Didn't you post recently about the same plow being sold, but the guy never picked it up? Hopefully he'll get it there without incident, but 'Geez, louise", it might be time to consider storage/delivery fees on your next sale.

Just my 02 cents... worth what you paid for it.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I wonder if it's worth warning the guy in PA about the quality of his 'hauler'. It's a little late now for him to make a change, but if anything arrives damaged, or if he ever needs this kind of service again, might be nice to know.

I've already contacted the "buyer". He didn't seem too concerned about the situation. I tried to tell him that he ALMOST didn't get his plow loaded on this clowns trailer because he ALMOST got ran out of town for being so rude to my wife. The buyer seemed content to deal with his hauler on a regular basis. Must be cheap, I guess.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Didn't you post recently about the same plow being sold, but the guy never picked it up? Hopefully he'll get it there without incident, but 'Geez, louise", it might be time to consider storage/delivery fees on your next sale.

Just my 02 cents... worth what you paid for it.

Same plow... Same "slow to pick up buyer". I don't do deliveries, but I will include storage fees beyond 30 days and a "handling charge" for dealing with haulers on anything I sell via internet again. If nothing else, the aggrevation, 9 different long distance phone calls, 2 registered letters, and 3 hours time lost at work are worth SOMETHING.

 

[jsborn]

Legally, I might be liable, maybe not. In today's world, who knows.

Yep the courts system is differently broken or at lease out of control.
I have been looking in my closet for my favorite pants to have them dry cleaned so I can claim they are worth 56 million dollars the same as the judge on the news.

 

[riptides]

Yep the courts system is differently broken or at lease out of control.
I have been looking in my closet for my favorite pants to have them dry cleaned so I can claim they are worth 56 million dollars the same as the judge on the news.

Yeah! Isn't that a cry? A judge doing it no less. I heard this AM he might get booted out. I say see ya.

-Mike Z.

 

[scott_vt]

Mornin Bill,
I think you held your temper remarkably well considering this guy sounds to me like he was off the wall ! He was abusive to your wife, showed up two days late, and was rude on top of everything else ! I dont think I would have been nearly so tolerant !

As far as the liability, I assume this guy is a liscenced hauler with proper credentials, after the equipment was loaded I would consider the safe delivery to the buyer in his hands, finished business ! But as another fella stated, I would call the buyer to inform him what a BOZO this hauler is !

 

[Kendall69]

Personally I would have called the highway patrol. If this load was as bad as you said this was a potential accident waiting to happen.

How bad would you have felt, had you not done anything, and on the news you saw that a family was killed because this guy's load came off, and you could have prevented it.

I have called the Highway patrol many, many times when I see unsafe conditions on the road, I think it's our responsibility to help the authorities as they can't be everywhere all the time.

Bad loads and unsafe vehicles is should not be taken lightly. Had a piece come off he could have caused serious injuries to other drivers, even a small piece falling off at highway speeds will cause a missile. So morally, for the safety of unsuspecting drivers this man should have been inspected by the authorities.

That's the moral part. Now had a guy jerked my wife around like this guy did, I would have made it my full time job to seek revenge, and call every agency I knew to get him pulled over for nothing more than the aggravation factor.

So by hassling him for revenge I would also save humanity, it doesn't get any better than that.

 

[n8wrl]

I've already contacted the "buyer". ... The buyer seemed content to deal with his hauler on a regular basis. Must be cheap, I guess.

or a relative.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Mornin Bill,
I think you held your temper remarkably well considering this guy sounds to me like he was off the wall ! He was abusive to your wife, showed up two days late, and was rude on top of everything else ! I dont think I would have been nearly so tolerant !

As far as the liability, I assume this guy is a liscenced hauler with proper credentials, after the equipment was loaded I would consider the safe delivery to the buyer in his hands, finished business ! But as another fella stated, I would call the buyer to inform him what a BOZO this hauler is !

Earlier in the day, I discovered that the shop (at work) had been broken in to, and approx. $5000 worth of MY OWN PERSONAL carpenters tools, in addition to approx. $15,000 worth of company owned stuff was stolen. My tools were insured, and I've come out even (maybe ahead considering I got NEW tools as replacements) After dealing with that all day, I wasn't in the mood to battle with this guy. (Former employee was stopped for speeding as he left our parking lot, by local police just about the time we figure the place was hit. Police are looking for him now.)

The hauler didn't even know the first thing about a log book. That clues me in that he wasn't anything like legal for commercial hauling.

I talked with the buyer this morning. He hired the hauler through a broker. Never met the hauler until he arrived yesterday afternoon at the Pennsylvania end. He was paying insured rates to have his cargo hauled. That's for them to hash out.

My wife and I both agreed to just let this guy go. We wouldn't have accomplished much by standing toe to toe argueing with him. Just get him off the property. Something about getting older teaches you to pick your spots.

I did get an email this morning from the buyer appologizing for the entire mess.

I'm just glad it's over and nothing bad happened.

 

[scott_vt]

I'm just glad it's over and nothing bad happened.

Afternoon Bill,
Well it sounds like it all worked out for the best ! Buyer got his plow in one piece, you got your money, and you learned not to deal with fly by nite haulers !