moving leaves with the PT

   / moving leaves with the PT #1  

EldoNixon

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Bacon Hill (Saratoga), NY
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BX23 TLB
Does anyone have a good solution to moving leaves with a PT. I have about 25 huge Maple trees and moving leaves is a huge chore. I don't need to make it perfect. I currently use my side discharge deck to "rake" them away from the house in concentric laps around the house. It mulches them down pretty well, and the bulk ends up in the road or woods--you got to love country living. With the PT rear discharge deck, that won't work. I figured I'd pony up and get the sweeper, but other posts have made me question the ability to use that on the lawn and have it remain a lawn. I'm really surprised that PT doesn't make a blower attachment--seems like it would be a good seller to me. The "rake" they offer seems pretty wimpy for leveling, but I suspect that it would be far too much to move leaves. Anyway, any thoughts? I'd also prefer not to break the bank.
 
   / moving leaves with the PT #2  
Eldo!

This has been a source of much thought on my part. I've had some threads in the past that investigated the use of a bagging accessory for the PT. I've also spoken to the factory. Frankly, there are not a lot of options currently. Here are some of the options I've found:

* Turn the PT's deck into a rear-discharge 'bagger', by custom-fabricating a rear-chute that attaches to a tube, and then closing off the front of the deck and hooking the whole works up to a tow-behind bagger assembly, probably from Cyclone Rake or Trac-Vac, etc. Fairly expensive (i.e. about $1000++), and requires some sheet metal work and some expertise in fabrication.

* Get a side-discharge deck, and hook a bagger up to it. This requires both a new deck and a tow-behind bagger. This is several thousands, and requires fabrication of a mounting attachment for the deck, since PT doesn't make a side-discharge.

* Get a tow-behind bagger with an external pick-up, and just use it without the deck for leaf pickup only. If you get a unit that does reduction in addition to picking up the leaves, this will reduce the bulk significantly. This requires no customization, but is limited to material pick-up - i.e. it doesn't really address bagging grass. Also, you don't get to sit during the operation, you'll be walking around and bagging leaves, so it's better exercise, but if you have a large property with a lot of leaves, this might not be such a good idea.

* Adapt a bagger from another manufacturer - the most likely candidate is from Ingersoll, as their blower unit is hydraulic. I believe someone is looking into this, no data yet.

* Adapt a bagger-vacuum to front-mount. Would require custom fabrication, and would limited in capacity, and can't be used for bagging grass. I've gotten mixed reviews for the dedicated vacuum-baggers as well. Some people say it doesn't work well.

* Buy a mower just for bagging and leaf-pick-up, and call it a day. This would make this a dedicated machine that would do just this, but it would work well. This requires a separate machine, with separate maintenance.

What am I doing? Well - I have a JD318 that I purchased well before I bought the PT. It has a Power-Flo bagger and a slip-loader. It bags and cuts well, although it is not much use as a heavy-duty loader, sweeper, heavy-lifter, fork-lift, back-hoe (you get the idea), which is why I purchased the PT. Although this will be the first year for the JD to do leaf pick-up, I believe it will do really well at this. I'll let you know in another few weeks! Therefore, I have a separate machine, which at first blush seems like overkill (I'd like to sell it, quite frankly, if I can come up with a suitable substitute for bagging and vacuuming) but it's paid for, and it works - that counts for a lot around my house. I also investigated the use of a Snapper Single-Blade Hi-Vac Rear-Engine-Rider (I actually purchased one for under $200 for an experiment). It bags INCREDIBLY well, but is limited in capacity (unless you get their 'baggin' wagon) and does NOT do well on sloped surfaces (the Rear-Engine makes is light in the front, and it tends to do wheelies going uphill. This is further exascerbated if a bagger is attached and full of grass). Lastly, the Snapper is not too great at trimming as it doesn't have a hydrostatic transmission, so fine trimming requires a lot of shifting and clutch work - not too pleasant on my sloped property. On a flat property, this would be a great solution.

Let me know what you figure out.

Sincerely,

Rob /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / moving leaves with the PT #3  
Check out the vac unit I fitted on the 425 in other posts - it really does work great - I fitted the 1845 with the same unit only I fully mounted it (a slightly smaller hopper) because the 1845 could hold the weight. It vacuumed up everthing with the 72 inch deck. Unbelievable power in this cyclone vac unit
 
   / moving leaves with the PT #4  
Check out this post that I made last year(pictues, too /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif).

In a nutshell, what I do is use my hand held leaf blower to windrow the leaves. When they won't move any more, I use the bucket on the PT425 to push them the length of the windrow to one big pile in the woods. It works very well. and goes really fast compared to using just the leaf blower.
 

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