I need help! I have the z-force 48 and have 30+ hours now. I have no complaints except I am having a very difficult time in trying to find a bagger system for this mower. Cub doesn't offer anything for the 48", and the only thing I've found on aftermarket, is only listed as being built for the "Tank" models. Have any of you found a good solution for this?? The lack of a grass catcher is killing me! Thanks for your input.
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My New Z-Force 48
- Thread starter MBDiagMan
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Sorry to post the bad news but there is no bagger available for the 48" Z-Force to my knowledge. The Tank bagger will not fit. The 48" Z-Force will not be produced in 2005 (be replaced by a 50" model) so you might not ever see a bagger for your unit! Contact your dealer and see if they can possible help you out any further.
OP
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The interesting thing here is the fact that on the brochure, a picture of a bagger on a Z-Force is very hard to miss. I'm sure that Gamble knows his product line, so I suppose that the bagger is on a 44" unit for the picture.
I only use a bagger in the fall and occasionally for pine needles. I have a bagger for my old 2145, so I have no need.
Could you rig an offset hitch so that you could drag a sweeper behind and to the right of the mower? This would be sort of like running a hay baler, but it might get the job done.
Good luck,
Doc
I only use a bagger in the fall and occasionally for pine needles. I have a bagger for my old 2145, so I have no need.
Could you rig an offset hitch so that you could drag a sweeper behind and to the right of the mower? This would be sort of like running a hay baler, but it might get the job done.
Good luck,
Doc
I was afraid of that. Here's my situation. When I purchased the mower, I was told by the dealer that the bagger was optional. After the purchase I found that this was not true. They have not offered any assistance to speak of. So...here's two questions....(1) Do you think Cub would work with me, to put pressure on this dealer to refund, or do something to offset the fact that I was told the incorrect info?, and if so....where could I go at Cub to get in contact with someone? (2) I am also considering a pull behind lawn vac system (clyclone rake), but don't know if this will be more of a hassle than what it's worth.
Again, I love the mower, but the ability to vacuum was very important, especially when spending 4k! Thanks for your reply's.
Again, I love the mower, but the ability to vacuum was very important, especially when spending 4k! Thanks for your reply's.
Each situation is different, so here is my advice...
If your dealer really said that there was a bagger available then he didn't know his product...and/or he was just trying to make the sale. HOWEVER, we are all human and we often time forget things or overlook them...I have been guilty of this before.
I would approach your dealer as positively as possible and just see if they offer to do anything. If you are recieved negatively then thats when you should approach Cub.
I'm not sure what your dealer can do...not sure what I would do...but there has to be some middle ground that suits both interest.
If your dealer really said that there was a bagger available then he didn't know his product...and/or he was just trying to make the sale. HOWEVER, we are all human and we often time forget things or overlook them...I have been guilty of this before.
I would approach your dealer as positively as possible and just see if they offer to do anything. If you are recieved negatively then thats when you should approach Cub.
I'm not sure what your dealer can do...not sure what I would do...but there has to be some middle ground that suits both interest.
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I've seen enough of gamble's posts now to feel confident that he is a VERY customer oriented tractor dealer. Let's say that you are lucky enough to be dealing with the same kind of dealer in your area.
If that is the case and you have put all 30 of these hours on your 48" before learning that no mower attachment is available, then if you are willing to give up the 4" of cut width and the few horsepower that go along with it, the difference in the price of the 44 and 48 is about the same difference as the bagger attachment I would think.
If you approach him, as gamble recommends, in a positive, friendly and professional way, and if he still has an '04 Z-Force 44", maybe you can pay him a little for the hours use that you've gotten from your 48" to make the trade.
If you approach him with respect and no anger, you will have your best chance to work it out. By all means don't imply that he intentionally told you a lie. Indicate that you are sure that it was an honest mistake. You can always catch more fly's with honey than with vinegar.
There is no way to know until you talk to the man. If he is a customer oriented business man, like gamble, that realizes the value of happy customers, I'm quite sure you can work this out to your satisfaction.
It won't cost anything but a little gas and time to go find out. Do it in person, not over the phone. Clean your unit up and make it look as much like new as you can and take it with you when you talk to him.
Good luck,
Doc
If that is the case and you have put all 30 of these hours on your 48" before learning that no mower attachment is available, then if you are willing to give up the 4" of cut width and the few horsepower that go along with it, the difference in the price of the 44 and 48 is about the same difference as the bagger attachment I would think.
If you approach him, as gamble recommends, in a positive, friendly and professional way, and if he still has an '04 Z-Force 44", maybe you can pay him a little for the hours use that you've gotten from your 48" to make the trade.
If you approach him with respect and no anger, you will have your best chance to work it out. By all means don't imply that he intentionally told you a lie. Indicate that you are sure that it was an honest mistake. You can always catch more fly's with honey than with vinegar.
There is no way to know until you talk to the man. If he is a customer oriented business man, like gamble, that realizes the value of happy customers, I'm quite sure you can work this out to your satisfaction.
It won't cost anything but a little gas and time to go find out. Do it in person, not over the phone. Clean your unit up and make it look as much like new as you can and take it with you when you talk to him.
Good luck,
Doc
Greetings Folks,
I'm new here and also a new owner of a Z-Force 50.
I compared the Z-Force with many other brands and in nearly all areas the Z-Force came out on top. It's clearly just built better. The Snapper model I looked at had the Hydro drives mounted up toward the seat and had long tubes going from the engine to the hydro drives with heat shielding on them, bad design in my book. The stamped frame on the snapper, especially the footing area bent when I stepped on and off the machine as did the Toro's I looked at. Both the Toro and Snapper's had single cylinder engines . . . bahhh. The Z-Force even though a tad more expensive seems worth it when you look at the components used.
Welded Frames
2 Cylinders 2005 Kohler engines
Grease Zerks everywhere
Wide Tires
Very Comfortable seating
Ease of maintance . . . all are found in the Cub's
BTW Does anyone new where the Zerks are for the 4 Deck Pivot points . . . I can not find them for the life of me, but the manual states they are there ?
The only thing I have noticed on my new Z-force is that grease zerks were not screwed in all the way on many of the areas . . . easy fix. I also noticed my needed some oil as it was at the add line after just 1.2 hours of use. ALSO make sure you deflate the rear tires to 8-10PSI and the fronts to 20-25PSI . . . my rear tires were at 35-40 psi and my fronts at 30psi . . . after doing this the ride was much smoother. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
I'm new here and also a new owner of a Z-Force 50.
I compared the Z-Force with many other brands and in nearly all areas the Z-Force came out on top. It's clearly just built better. The Snapper model I looked at had the Hydro drives mounted up toward the seat and had long tubes going from the engine to the hydro drives with heat shielding on them, bad design in my book. The stamped frame on the snapper, especially the footing area bent when I stepped on and off the machine as did the Toro's I looked at. Both the Toro and Snapper's had single cylinder engines . . . bahhh. The Z-Force even though a tad more expensive seems worth it when you look at the components used.
Welded Frames
2 Cylinders 2005 Kohler engines
Grease Zerks everywhere
Wide Tires
Very Comfortable seating
Ease of maintance . . . all are found in the Cub's
BTW Does anyone new where the Zerks are for the 4 Deck Pivot points . . . I can not find them for the life of me, but the manual states they are there ?
The only thing I have noticed on my new Z-force is that grease zerks were not screwed in all the way on many of the areas . . . easy fix. I also noticed my needed some oil as it was at the add line after just 1.2 hours of use. ALSO make sure you deflate the rear tires to 8-10PSI and the fronts to 20-25PSI . . . my rear tires were at 35-40 psi and my fronts at 30psi . . . after doing this the ride was much smoother. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif